Re: Starmapping software
- From: "oriel36" <geraldkelleher@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 8 Oct 2006 12:09:52 -0700
OG wrote:
"oriel36" <geraldkelleher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Where does the clock rate come from? You can't get a precise clock rate
from the Sun can you? The best you can get is a variable clock that needs
correction through the Equation of Time.
The standard pace of the hand movement of a clock was originally
devised by astronomers based on the daily cycle as the Sun returns to
noon .The heliocentric astronomers knew from observence that no two
daily cycles are the same so they equalised the variations by observing
naturl noon and applying corrections of minutes and seconds to create
the 24 hour day and more importantly to facilitate the seamless
transition from one 24 hour day to the next 24 hour day.
OK, so you agree that a calendrical correction is applied to the solar time.
I had specifically requested that you leave the matter to those who can
appreciate how the transfer of the Equation of Time principles from its
pre-Copernican purpose of governing the creation of the 24 hour day and
its seamless transition to the next 24 hour hour day was adapted to its
heliocentric application to the principle of independent and constant
axial rotation.
If nobody can go so far as to acknowledge that it never was neccessary
to introduce celestial sphere geometry to arrive at the correlation of
axial rotation at 15 degrees per hour then there is absolutely nothing
I can do about it.It remains a horrendous error to justify the return
of a star in 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds using the axial and orbital
motions of the Earth but again,there is nothing I can do about that
either.
I can show you where the rubbish began with Maskelyne who opposed
Harrison and his chronometer which keeps the standard pace of a clock
in sync with axial rotation but my business is to promote the positive
side of astronomy and timekeeping and not strictly correcting clowns
like Maskelyne,Newton and Flamsteed .
Put the following title in the search field of the Royal Journals -
Some Remarks upon the Equation of Time, and the True Manner of
Computing
http://www.journals.royalsoc.ac.uk/(rglh3y55x100x5nyim4p0k45)/app/home/main.asp?referrer=default
This silly man is doing what you all do,make up whatever explanation
you think will fly without even bothering to make the effort to grasp
the exquisite and easy to understand two step process with one foot in
pre-Copernican astronomy and the other in heliocentric astronomy.
It is how the Equation of Time principles which govern the creation of
the 24 hour day get transfered to the heliocentric adaption for axial
rotation which is breathtaking in its genius and its intricacies.Having
delivered the insight by which the orbital motion of the Earth
resolved the observed motions of the planets, by dividing the Earth's
motions into seperate axial and orbital entities,these great
astronomers could then adapt the Equation of Time principles to axial
rotation in isolation.
Which great astronomers are these ? Please let's be specific.
And do you understand that the Equation of Time has nothing to do with the
axial alignment of the Earth?
I have done what I could to promote astronomy in a contemporary
atmosphere which only recognises magnification as being the ultimate
ends of astronomy.Nobody is doing anything without the correct point of
departure for astronomy ,that being recognising the independent axial
rotation of the Earth and the cycle to which human existence is
closely tied to.
Drop justifying the return of a star in 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds
using the axial and orbital motions of the Earth or what amounts to the
same thing,at least try to comprehend how the correlation between
time,axial rotation and the motions of the Earth actually emerged.This
means jettisoning the fables of people like Maskelyne who did not have
the intuitive intelligence to grasp that no celestial sphere or
'primium mobile' was neccessary to create one of the greatest human
achievements ever.
.
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