Re: Starmapping software



OG wrote:
"oriel36" <geraldkelleher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1160387375.844130.160280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
.There never was an external reference required to
explain axial rotation at 15 degrees per hour,just a subtle and

When you say that no external reference is required, you are in fact saying
that no external reference is possible.

I do not say it,the original astronomical principles which we inherit
dictate that no external reference is required to justify axial
rotation and the correlation with the standard pace set by clocks.

It is an absolute jewel and a marvel to appreciate how the
pre-Copernican and heliocentric adaption slot together to generate the
clock system allied to axial rotation and despite the various
modifications which were brought in for the convenience of civil
timekeeping (1884) the underlying astronomical principles are still
governing it all.

As it is a shared astronomical heritage ,it is up to another individual
to promote the two step process linking the human devised principle of
the equable 24 hour day and how it was neatly grafted into the
discovery that the Earth has an independent axial rotation making the
daily cycle possible.The tricky part is knowing how to use the Equation
of Time noon correction which creates the 24 hour day and just as
important,how one 24 hour day elapses seamlessly into the next 24 hour
day.These two pieces of information were grafted into heliocentric
astronomy as a product of determining that the Earth's orbital motion
explained the observed behavior of the planets and axial rotation
explained the daily cycle in terms of its rotation to the Sun.






The best you can do is say that 'On
average, over an approximate 365 rotation period it gives a repeating
pattern; however it is very approximate and is nearly four degrees wrong at
certain times of the year' .
However, what is more disturbing is that you continue to believe that you
have the right to tell others that yours is the only right way to think of
astronomy.



The motions of the Earth dictate what works and what does not so there
never is an attempt to tell others what to think however there is no
shortage of people who force the axial and orbital motion of the Earth
into the calendar system of 3 years of 365 days and 1 year of 366 days
just for the convenience of observation.The so-called 'universal law of
gravitation' amounts to fitting solar system motion into the Ra/Dec
system by promoting celestial sphetre/primium mobile geometry as a
basis for the actual motions of the Earth and thereby destroying the
ability to appreciate how the orbital motions of the planets can be
seen directly from an orbitally moving Earth and how the clock system
was grafted into the insight of axial rotation.

Again,with all this hanging over your heads,nobody is doing anything
worthwhile in terms of using the Earth's motions and orientations to
the Sun and especially in the area of climatology which requires an
accurate version of the relationship between axial and orbital motion
of the Earth.I can present a streamlined version of that relationship
in terms of oscillatingplanetary temperature bands thereby dropping
the uneccessary variable axial tilt of the Earth to the Sun as the
explanation for global climate -

http://www.climateprediction.net/images/sci_images/annual.gif

Retaining celestial sphere geometry is entirely counter-productive to
the area of climate studies but few ,at least it would seem that
way,are comfortable enough with a new way to approach global climate
from an astronomical point of view to discuss the matter.In this
respect,the only real negative side is the lack of people to discuss
the astronomical aspect and I assure you it would clear out the vast
majority who make a racket with global warming while having no
planetary framework to express the changing nature of the temperature
bands.

This is never about finding those 17th century guys wrong,this was and
is always about the productive avenues which exist for those who can
quickly alter their efforts to supporting accurate working principles
for axial and orbital motion found in Copernican heliocentricity and in
the correlation between the 24 hour clock system and axial rotation.

.



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