Re: Starmapping software


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OG wrote:

How do you know when you are back in the same place without an
external
reference.

You are clearly using the sun as an external reference. So how does
that
square with the claim that 'no external reference is necessary' ?
So - what is the means of knowing when you have completed 360 degrees
WITHOUT an external reference?

A gyro.

Yes, thanks for that, but O36 is not so easily fooled by these 'real
science' tricks.

The return of a star to a meridian in 23 hours 56 minutes and 04
seconds is based on a 1461 day cycle of 3 years of 365 days and 1 year
of 366 days.

Goodness me, how hard you make things.


Clearly, the return of a star to a meridian in 23 hours 56 minutes and 04
seconds is based on the cycle that returns a star to the meridian in 23 56
04 which is the rotation of the earth.


The astrophotographers can promote heliocentric astronomy by
developing time lapse footage of the motions of the other planets in
affirming that our planet has an orbital motion around the Sun and how
this motion is seen directly by explaining how it overtakes the slower
moving outer planets -

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0112/JuSa2000_tezel.gif

The flip side of orbital motion in isolation is axial rotation in
isolation and that is where the 24 hour clock system and rotation at 15
degrees per hour mesh with heliocentric astronomy.The gorgeous two step
process which belongs to both pre-Copernican and heliocentric
astronomers sparkles with the intelligence that once was astronomy and
may yet do so again.

Celestial sphere geometers who have been justifying the return of a
star to a location in 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds using the axial
and orbital motions of the Earth and building concepts on that value
have been dominant for many centuries.With the help of modern
imaging,astronomy can be restored and the great Western astronomical
insights can blossom again.

The creationist element in all this is celestial sphere geometry and
those who take the trouble to defend this observational convenience
based on the calendar system should be left to their own devices.The
problem is not convincing you that you are wrong,the problem is that
the correct shared astronomical heritage which isolates axial and
orbital motions for their respective purposes exist and nobody
appreciates them.










It should strike people that there is no way to justify the
Earth's axial and orbital motions using a system which requires a leap
correction every fourth year but then again,if the exquisiteEquation
of Time system which links the 24 hour day to axial rotation at
precisely 24 hours/360 degrees was appreciated I would not have to
point out exactly why having celestial sphere geometry governing solar
system dynamics is the most destructive concept ever to enter the
investigation of natural phenomena.


You have never explained yourself as to why it is destructive - you just
repeat the claim ad-nauseam. Not surprising really - you've admitted your
ignorance of basic principles and you refuse to engage with the arguments
presented. You are incapable of understanding your own point of view - which
is why your presentation never varies.

Do you really believe that the leap year depends on anything other that the
ratio between year and day is not an simple integer?

.

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