Re: How 40 years of liberal experiments killed U.S. science education



That has got to be the most ridiculous, convoluted explaination I have
ever come across. What you're basically saying is that since the
economy was good and demand for a highly-educated highly-paid
technical workforce was present, that it was the conservatives' fault
that education is bad.

This implies that
1. Good competent teachers are only teaching because there's no other option
2. A bad economy is necessary to attract a workforce into teaching
3. The good economy was the fault of the "Conservatives and capitalists"
4. A good economy is bad for education

This is silly on so many levels.

- Chris


LarryG <larryg_uu@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

On Jul 28, 10:35 am, Rich <rander3...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The fact something like this exists is further testament to the fact
of the subject. Replace sciences with "social sciences" in the
schools and now Third World countries like India turn out most of the
engineers and scientists.

There is quite enough blame to go around for the current sorry state
of science, education, and amateur astronomy in the United States.
Conservatives and capitalists were even more instrumental than the
timid, appeasing liberals they like to demonize.

Consider the fact that many years ago, those technically talented
youths who could readily absorb the information, gained the training,
and entered the workforce in technical fields. And they were paid
handsomely for their efforts. They were paid so well, in fact, that
they had a disincentive to return to the classroom to teach the next
generations.

Those teaching positions had to be staffed by those who were not as
qualified as their peers in industry. The result was muddled
education, and a generation of students who didn't want to be as
technically incompetent and uninspiring as their science and math
teacher role models.

And when students faired poorly on tests, due to inadequate
instruction, they decided that math and science were not their forte,
and went on to subjects like athletics, music, and business. The role
models they saw here were on television or radio, making fortunes with
little intellectual investment.

Those who could still pick up on technical matters, in spite of
lackluster teachers, were called nerds, geeks and dorks.

A whole volume could be written on this subject, but it would do
little good here. The point I wish to make, is that for every finger
you point at others, you've got three pointing back at you.

Cheers,
Larry G.


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