Re: Google posting

On Sep 1, 8:58 pm, RMOLLISE <rmoll...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 1, 12:27 pm, oriel36 <geraldkelle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Sep 1, 3:41 pm, RMOLLISE <rmoll...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 1, 8:22 am, "Carsten A. Arnholm" <arnh...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

oriel36 wrote:
On Aug 9th I answered the post to some Watson guy and 3 days later on
12th Aug another one shows up on sci.crypt -

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro.amateur/msg/f1b5034b186dab3f
They could be sidereal.

Yup. I'm a-guessin' it's the fault of those danged Catalog Astronomers
and Astrophotographers. You know, "astrologers with magnification."
The depth of their depravity knows no bounds.

:-)

The problem is lack of depth and there is nothing I can do about that.

Sorry Oreo:

As a great man once said: "Sorry, that's not even _wrong_."

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How do you propose to continue with a working model for axial and
orbital motion that does not exist as is contrary to heliocentric
reasoning -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Tiempo_sid%C3%A9reo.en.png

I thought enough about the participants in s.a.a. to come here and
show where much of the great astronomical insights remain temporarily
destroyed by people taking some awful shortcuts,the one above by
Flamsteed is bad enough until you see what Isaac did to Kepler based
on Flamsteed's fixed star framework -

"PHÆNOMENON IV.
That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five
primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the
earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean
distances from the sun.

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm

I understand completely that the statement of Newton means nothing to
you or your magnification exercise but I assure you it destroys the 17
years Kepler spent coming to the conclusion -

"The proportion existing between the periodic times of any two planets
is exactly the sesquiplicate proportion of the mean distances of the
orbits, or as generally given,the squares of the periodic times are
proportional to the cubes of the mean distances." Kepler

That statement by Kepler may mean even less to you than Newton's and
that is fine but the 'periodic times' is based on orbital comparisons
between two planets and has nothing whatsoever to do with any
geocentric/heliocentric orbital equivalency as Isaac has it .I would
even go to the trouble of typing out the entire excerpt of Kepler were
it possible to know that I was not wasting my time by doing so.

If I thought for one moment that genuine heliocentric reasoning is not
exciting,productive and enjoyable using modern graphics and imaging I
would not pursue promoting it but the genuine article is exciting and
really good for everyone.Why stick with a 'clockwork' solar system
that is based on the calendar system when you can still keep your Ra/
Dec system as an observational convenience.










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