Re: Truly Offensive Bad Astronomy

On Sep 5, 8:19 pm, Dr J R Stockton <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In sci.astro.amateur message <1188996082.729292.92...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
groups.com>, Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:41:22, tony_fland...@xxxxxxxxx posted:

On Sep 4, 2:58 am, Margo Schulter <mschul...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Your remarks remind me of an attempt I made
back around 1996 ... to devise
a refinement of the Gregorian algorithm to get
yet closer to the tropical year.

For what it's worth, the Orthodox Church has adopted a calendar which
is nearly perfect. It agrees with the Gregorian calendar up to 2800,
which is a leap year for the Orthodox but not for the Gregorian. It's
based on a cycle where 7 out of every 9 century years are leap years,
as opposed to 3 out of 4 for the Gregorian.

What you write cannot be what you mean.

Orthodox divide the year by 900, and don't Leap if the remainder is not
200 or 600.

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I enjoy taking pretensious freaks apart so lets see how you stand up .

From your ill-informed website -

"The Second is now defined, in SI, by the physics of atoms, and no
longer by the rotation of the Earth.
For the UTC time scale, the addition or subtraction of Leap Seconds
accommodates the discrepancy in rate, which in 2001 was about 1 ms per
day or 0.01 ppm. The UTC day thereby tracks the averaged rotation of
the Earth with respect to the Earth-Sun line.

A constant rate of Leap Seconds would accommodate a constant averaged
Earth rotation time differing from the nominal 86400 SI seconds.
Variations in the Leap Second rate accommodate changes in the Earth's
averaged rotation rate.

Long-term, the Earth's mean rotation slows by about 7 ms / year /
year, largely because of the drag of sea-tides.

Leap Seconds occur simultaneously, world-wide, at UTC midnight.

Leap Seconds were introduced in principle at 1972.0 UTC; the first one
was 1972-06-30 23:59:60 UTC"

http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/leapsecs.htm


The only 'leaps seconds' that are acceptable in respect to the axial
cycle are from the dignified,do you hear this,the dignified Equation
of Time system which resets the 24 hour clock cycle to natural
noon.The closest our ancestors get to linking clocks directly to axial
rotation is to determine that the average 24 hour day can be
transfered to a 'constant' axial cycle as a principle thereby maintain
the existing correlation between clock time and geographical
seperation 4 minutes = 1 degree ,15 degrees = 1 hour and 24 hours/360
degrees.

The only acceptable application of 'leap seconds' applied to the axial
cycle is the astronomical jewel known as the Equation of Time and
thank God,dull people like you cannot grasp it -

http://www.xs4all.nl/~adcs/Huygens/06/kort-E.html

The neccessary modification of astronomical principles to suit
climatological purposes cannot wait for pretensious numbskulls who
cannot grasp the basic astronomical principles that the old
astronomers took for granted,people like Huygens,Harrison and anyone
who appreciated the diiference between natural noon ,24 hour clock
noon and terrestrial longitudes.

Surely there are a few participants who can go beyond constellational
observing thread and recognise just how important this matter actually
is.







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