Re: Kepler ,Newton and orbital geometry

On Sep 7, 1:00 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
On Sep 7, 4:23 am, Quadibloc <jsav...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
They don't need to fight. They're free to hop to a Galactic center
frame any time they need to.
It is for dynamicists to decide whether to revist Keplerian orbital
geometries with an eye to other physical considerations such as the
'ice age' cycles from climatology and geology rather than be slaves
to the zodiacal framework which Newton built on.They are not free and
never will be free so long as that awful error created by Flamsteed
remains but for my part,it is not really my business what they do and
believe among themselves ,it is their problem to deal with.

But I should also have added that if they don't have the use of the
law of universal gravitation any longer, it doesn't matter what
reference frame they hop to, they will not be able to do anything when
they get there. Except passively observe.

If Newton's law of gravity were giving them wrong answers, they would
take action. And, indeed, the contribution of the General Theory of
Relativity to the understanding of the motions of Mercury is accepted
and appreciated.

God forbid any of you had to bear the stress of trying to promote the
achievements of timekeeping and structural astronomers and discover
that nobody wants to hear what they have to say but that is what all
this has amounted to.Not one of you will click on the link showing
Huygens treatise and what can I do beyond that -

http://www.xs4all.nl/~adcs/Huygens/06/kort-E.html

I did follow that link, but although I read what was there, I could
not see how it presented a different way to understand the heavens.

John Savard

'Period Of Rotation'
"The actual value is 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4 seconds. This is the
length of a "sidereal" day. It is the actual time it takes the Earth
to rotate 360 degrees. The term "sidereal" (pronounced sigh-dear'-
real) refers to the rotation of the Earth being measured relative to
the stars. There ARE 24 hours in a "solar day". This is the time it
takes from one noon (sun overhead) to the next noon. The difference in
the two "days" arises from the fact that during a day the Earth also
travels nearly a degree further on its yearly trek around the Sun. "

http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/rocket_sci/orbmech/period.html

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/JennyChen.shtml

This is a Nasa website,it is the same in every reference book and all
trying to make the fictional difference between 'solar time and
sidereal time fit,try the NNM where the clocks of Harrison reside -

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/nav.3116

What are you doing to yourselves ? the actual principles which keeps
clocks in sync with the axial cycle are lovely and easy to understand
as a facet of heliocentric reasoning -

http://www.xs4all.nl/~adcs/Huygens/06/kort-E.html


I will say this for the last time,I thought with the treatise of
Huygens showing how clocks,the axial cycle and terrestrial longitudes
mesh that you empirical cult was finally in trouble with this
'sidereal time/solar time ' hoax,it turns out that I am in trouble in
terms of the unfolding horror in watching nobody support the most
basic astronomical fact of all in terms of clocks and axial rotation.

These people in s.a.a now belong to you.













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