Re: Galactic images

oriel36 wrote:

Stow it mate,half the people in here would love to escape the junk
dumped into the celestial arena .If somebody wants the 'big bang'
theory where the galaxies have been continuously flying apart while
observationally seeing galaxies collide or interact then the
'expanding space' junk and the reasoning behind it has to go.

You imply that it is argued that the ONLY motion affecting galaxies is
expansion?


It is taught that space has expanded 13 billion light years,the
further we look out the further back in time we are supposed to see.I
had to laugh a few weeks ago on the Bad Astronomy forum where a
curious creationist was playing along with the spiel of expanding
space and many tripping over themselves to explain it to him.He then
asked does that mean that the Universe is 26 billlion light years in
diameter and thereby setting off seizures the proponents of big bang
geometry to talk abouit something else,it was one of those 'out of the
mouths of babes' type things which can be enjoyed on occasion.

What has this to do with your original post ?

One of the junk concepts is this idea of expanding space where the
galaxies fly apart yet observations show them interacting like any
other objects do.

I reiterate, you expose yourself as a fool by your arguments.

How about this theory
"Everyone gets older until they die"

Does the presence of a baby invalidate the theory? No - of course not, because as well as ageing, there are other processes going on.

Similarly, as well as expansion there are other processes going on, notably gravitational attraction between galaxies in clusters - so 'galaxies in collision' is of no surprise to anyone other than the bewildered.

I do not have any attachment to big bang geometry and
the reasoning behind it,so I am free to look at cosmological evolution
from a closer perspective and especially stellar evolution.without
having to make any great sweeping conclusions about how the universe
began or if there are any great structural motions beyond galactic
rotation,things like that.

This pretty well sums up the limitations of your approach. Strange that you don't see it.
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