Re: Global Warming is about giving your government more regulatory power and your eventual enslavment.

On Oct 21, 2:58 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 21, 1:55 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Oct 21, 7:38 am, "M104gal...@xxxxxxxxx" <M104gal...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Exactly how was man causing global warming in the 1850ties? Millions
of cars running around?

As others have noted, 1850 was around the time of something called the
"Industrial Revolution", when the steam engine had just been invented,
and so people started burning coal to do many different things to a
much greater extent than before.

Of course, energy consumption then wasn't what it is now, so the
effect was weaker. While back then, people did have thermometers and
record the weather, things like tree rings and isotope ratios have
been used in modern studies of past climate as well, and this helps to
avoid errors due to any limitations on older means of measurement.

Ah, here we are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record

discusses the matter quite well. Apparently they don't need to use
stuff like tree rings except for times before 1850, so I wasn't quite
right.

John Savard

one small quote from your cite which you apparently didn't read:

"The uncertainty in annual measurements of the global average
temperature (95% range) is estimated to be ~0.05°C since 1950 and as
much as ~0.15°C in the earliest portions of the instrumental record.
The error in recent years is dominated by the incomplete coverage of
existing temperature records. Early records also have a substantial
uncertainty driven by systematic concerns over the accuracy of sea
surface temperature measurements.[23][24] Station densities are
highest in the northern hemisphere, providing more confidence in
climate trends in this region. Station densities are far lower in
other regions such as the tropics, northern Asia and the former Soviet
Union. This results in less confidence in the robustness of climate
trends in these areas. If a region with few stations includes a poor
quality station, the impact on global temperature would be greater
than in a grid with many weather stations.[25]"


So many global warming assumptions are forced as to make predictions
useless--it is a religion, not science.

And, again, I know you true believers don't like this focus but
"global warming" and "global warming is caused primarily by man-made
CO2" are two very different concepts--even you can't be that stupid.
We may well be in a natural cyclical warming cycle--it is the ultimate
arrogance to assume we can turn it off if we just spend enough money.

I agree we should go nuclear as our primary source of electricity--
just as Europe does-- but Greens don't like that option even given the
fact that the number of nuclear power plant fatalities in the US
is........zero. Wind doesn't blow evenly anywhere; solar doesn't work
well at night; ac doesn't store too well in a battery, etc, etc But
go ahead and make Boone Pickens richer as he plays off your fears. The
government can pay for it right? No cost to the taxpayer, right? Bet
you don't pay taxes but "Rolando" is not going to like Obama's
socialism very much.
.

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