Re: Global Warming is about giving your government more regulatory power and your eventual enslavment.

On Oct 21, 2:34 pm, "M104gal...@xxxxxxxxx" <M104gal...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

And, again, I know you true believers don't like this focus but
"global warming" and "global warming is caused primarily by man-made
CO2" are two very different concepts--even you can't be that stupid.
We may well be in a natural cyclical warming cycle--it is the ultimate
arrogance to assume we can turn it off if we just spend enough money.

Man-made carbon dioxide is an additional element, separate from
natural cycles.

Natural cycles balance over time, but human interference is outside
that system, so the "green" suspicion of human activity as something
that could be unbalanced is not entirely unreasonable.

The quantity of man-made carbon dioxide can be estimated, and its
likely effects on global temperatures can be estimated as well. That
human fossil fuel consumption is going to make the world warmer than
it would otherwise be is _not_ particularly controversial or
difficult.

Whether or not any actual warming is taking place - or if the weather
has just been warm for a couple of years, and man-made carbon dioxide
is actually needed to stave off an ice age that natural cycles are
trying to bring us - yes, that is harder to tell. But when we get to
the point that Russian peat bogs are about to release vast quantities
of methane, or when the Great Barrier Reef is about to die from ocean
acidity, it seems like there are grounds for concerns.

The greens _have_ been crying wolf for so long, it is hard to believe
that they are right for once, but human activity has continued to
increase, and so that we would get to the point of real problems -
first with the ozone layer, now with global warming - is not really
that surprising.

Also, the use of an emotion-laden term like "arrogance" does not help
in convincing people of your case. When I saw that, little alarm bells
went off, because I had seen this sort of thing before in discussions
of global warming, by people who believed...

that life here began on or near 4004 B.C., and

the only human activity that is likely to engender global catastrophe
is sin, which will lead to God, in His own good time initiating (or
permitting) the events described in the Book of Revelations.

Thus, the idea of a global catastrophe taking place early through
secular causes, whether ecological disaster or global thermonuclear
war, ought to be left out of our thinking, as it distracts people from
prayer and Bible reading.

There is no "arrogance" in concern over human carbon dioxide
emissions. It is considered that they may have serious effects because
the numbers total up so as to indicate that the current increased
level of atmospheric carbon dioxide means that the heat the Earth
would normally radiate into space each night is instead heating up the
air, raising the Earth's equlibrium temperature. Adding up numbers to
determine the answer is not a process in which emotional attitudes of
arrogance or humility have any part.

John Savard
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