Re: Sunrise and Sunset Calculation



oriel36 wrote:

Oh,for an astronomer to discuss this with !

Well, I could say the same thing.

Just for the record, I received my bachelor's degree in Astronomy in
1970. OK, it was 39 years ago, and I've never actually been employed
as an Astronomer (1970 was a tough time to secure a job in any of the
sciences), but I think I've retained the basics over the years, and I
can assure you that the mechanics of the solar system have not changed
much in that time frame.

When you see the motion of the Equatorial rings with respect to the
central Sun,you are watching an orbitally specific motion intrinsic to
the planet itself,it has nothing to do with daily rotation or the
'tilt' generated by daily rotation -

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infrared/UranusAo/ur_time_2001_2005.jpg

These pictures of Uranus only show that the rings of Uranus change
orientation over time WRT to both the sun and the earth. What's the
big revelation here? The perspective has changed. You expected
something else?

All these billions of dollars of equipment are telling you that the
cause for the seasonal variations require two 360 degree motions
intrinsic to the planet itself,daily rotation wrt to the Sun and the
slow annual 360 degree change with wrt to the Sun as an extension of
orbital motion.Both 360 degree motions combine to generate the global
variations in the natural noon cycle.

Well, no they aren't. This is, in fact, your very own personal
"mystery motion". I'll guess that it is akin to centrifugal force,
which, of course, is imaginary, just like yours. The annual slow 360
degree turn WRT the sun seems to be there all right, but ONLY WRT to
the sun, it is imaginary. In the bigger picture it is just not there.


It is a matter of correct interpretation using modern imaging and if
others can't compare what is happening on Earth and Uranus and then
draw the correct conclusions there is little I can or would do about
it.

I agree fully with you here, it IS a matter of correct interpretation,
but for right now, there doesn't seem to be anyone, as of yet, who
interprets things your way, it is basically you against the rest of
the world. No Professionals, no amateurs, no otherwise intelligent
people can see your point. You can't come up with a single human
reference that supports your theories. I would think that this would
shake the confidence of most people at least a little bit, they might
start to suspect that perhaps, just perhaps, they have missed
something important, somewhere along the way... or maybe you really do
think that your theories are rock-solid and that everyone else is a
dunce... in which case, well...

"A modest little person, with much to be modest about." - Winston
Churchill

\Paul
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