Re: NASA - Funded Carbon Dioxide Map of U.S. Released on Google Earth - 02.19.09



Martin Brown wrote:
Jax wrote:
Martin Brown wrote:


ok.
let's say we do gain your stated efficiency.

The stated efficiency is already there to be had with existing technology just look at Japanese and European cars for example. It is only in the US that dinosaur automakers with deep pockets have bribed congress criters so that fleet vehicle fuel efficiency has not improved since Henry Fords original motorcar. If anything it has gone backwards!

So long as US gas remains dirt cheap there is no incentive for anything to change.


I know the technology is there. we just need to replace everyones car with a new one. it just takes time and money - more money for less time. and please try to avoid agenda rhetoric .


what percentage of the total CO2 output would be reduced?

About 5-10% depending on whose numbers you take. That is a useful contribution. It is an easy step. US cars are terrible to drive. They are a cruel joke that could only be perpetrated on a captive market.

what percentage is required?

Every little helps.

you want to expend lots of money without stating your expected results? and your answer is not true if your changes expend more CO2 than you would save. Prius' are a good example generating more CO2 than an SUV!

It will buy us more time if we don't gratuitously stay on the rapid exponential growth curve in emissions.

rapid exponential growth? the US growth in CO2 is 1.1% annually (during the Bush administration), down from 1.3% (during the Clinton administration). pardon the political notes. i'm just poking fun at those who are political at the expense of facts. btw which EU countries have met the Kyoto protocol?


Insulating your houses properly would also make a very big difference. National Geographic this month has a thermogram of a US house on the front cover.
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Even the longest journeys have to start with a first step. Doing nothing is not the answer.

true, but you need a map of your journey before you begin. in this case are you applying your resources toward the best results? and are those results even achievable? how much CO2 reduction is required before you would see a measurable change in temperature?


what's your plan - with numbers please.

Increase vehicle fuel efficiency to 40 and the 60 mph which cuts down local city pollution as well as fuel usage. Taxing aviation fuel has to be one of the next steps - flying is now too cheap. And much of what needs to be done in business can now be accomplished by teleconferencing.

please try to avoid agenda rhetoric .

Regards,
Martin Brown

again, what's your plan - with numbers please.
increase fleet fuel economy = x%
increase home hvac efficiency = x%
increase home appliance efficiency = x%
switch to renewable energy sources = x%
switch to new undeveloped source = x%
etc.

reduction in CO2 required to change temperature = x%
cost to achieve each of the above changes = x$



agreed there are many reasons to increase energy efficiency including the individuals own cost reduction, health benefits, and most importantly to lessen reliance on foreign powers.
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