Re: SATELLITE DEBRIS UPDATE & WORM MOON

On Mar 11, 7:11 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
On Mar 11, 6:38 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Marty wrote:
Howdy Sam,
     It got MUDDY here for a day or two, then froze solid.  I don't
think I'd want to be a worm right now.
     Nice to read a little "lore."  Leave it to Oriel to get bent out of
shape...
                               Marty
   <laughing>

   I don't live that far away from you, Marty, so our weather is very
   much the same. Last weekend a visiting relative said, "you aerated
   your lawn"! I replied, "no it's the earthworms". I'm sure they have
   burrowed back down for a few days.

   And when the warm wind blow again, I will think of the old 4-H tune
   that includes, "Oh, the south winds blow over winter snows... and I
   know that spring is coming". And it will be more tolerable to view
   Saturn, M42 and many other delights once again.

Well Sam.I just read what you wrote in another forum about what
amateur astronomers are capable of,so go ahead  and explain to this
audience of amateur observers exactly what you mean -

http://groups.google.ie/group/sci.physics.relativity/topics?hl=en

I spent years of sci.physics .relativity getting a feel for the
arguments and can easily dismantle it all to astronomical terms that
genuinely curious observers can understand.If you invoke amateur
observers to make a point then you better explain what it is they see.

   Background for Kelleher
     http://www.amateurspectroscopy.com/
     http://www.springerlink.com/content/h7mh8474443rx640/





I will spare people the suspense,all that  absolute/relative nonsense
that has rotted the minds of humanity for the last century is actually
a contrived distortion of what Newton actually did do and it is not
far removed from observational astronomy and the consequences which
relate directly to future investigations in structural
astronomy,terrestrial disciplines like geology and climatology and
many other effects.

I will open a thread where you can argue the points openly while
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Background for Wormsley -

"The fictitious matter which is imagined as filling the whole of space
is of no use for explaining the phenomena of Nature, since the motions
of the planets and comets are better explained without it, by means of
gravity; and it has never yet been explained how this matter accounts
for gravity. The only thing which matter of this sort could do, would
be to interfere with and slow down the motions of those large
celestial bodies, and weaken the order of Nature; and in the
microscopic pores of bodies, it would put a stop to the vibrations of
their parts which their heat and all their active force consists in.
Further, since matter of this sort is not only completely useless, but
would actually interfere with the operations of Nature, and
weaken them, there is no solid reason why we should believe in any
such matter at all. Consequently, it is to be utterly rejected."
Newton, Optics 1704

So Sam,how are you going to reject an aether that Newton already
"utterly rejected" or rather,manage to get aether associated with
Newton's absolute space like Albert tried to do -

"Since he classes his absolute space together with real things, for
him rotation relative to an absolute space is also something real.
Newton might no less well have called his absolute space ``Ether'';"
Albert

http://www.mountainman.com.au/aether_0.html

All that happened Sam is that nobody actually understood what Newton
was on about anyway but modern time lapse footage lights up his idea
of absolute/relative space in terms of the insight of Copernicus and
the correct resolution for retrogrades.If people want to stick with
the hoopla of absolute space/aether,they are simply wasting their time
as can be seen in sci.physics.relativity day in and day out.

Mature observers here simply weigh the observations and draw their own
conclusions while enjoying some clarity for a change.

.

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