Re: Complete proof against evolution
- From: oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
On Mar 14, 12:07 pm, "A Believer" <abelieverin...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As a Christian myself, I find your comments offensive. Not just this single
post, but over a whole series of posts. You seem to want to attack
religion, God, and especially Christianity.
He has a good reason to attack Christianity and I don't blame him,what
is objectionable,at least to this Christian,is the loathsome
'compromise' where 'science is science and faith is faith' that has
been emerging for quite some time.
Take this evolution business for instance,I work on rotational
geodynamics and its consequences on the fractured surface
crust,surface features and events such as Earthquakes and volcanic
activity,my heritage is through Wegener,Smith and Steno in drawing up
the basic geological evolutionary timeline allied with biological
evolutionary factors such as fossils.The I come across the most anti-
scientific intrusion such as Darwin's 'cause' for evolution which is a
giant distraction.
This Darwin guy ripped the reasoning from an essay on national
supremacy and applied it to biological evolution as a 'law' -
"One day something brought to my recollection Malthus’s “Principles of
Population,” which I had read about twelve years before. I thought of
his clear exposition of “the positive checks to increase”—disease,
accidents, war, and famine—which keep down the population of savage
races to so much lower an average than that of civilized peoples. It
then occurred to me that these causes or their equivalents are
continually acting in the case of animals also..... because in every
generation the inferior would inevitably be killed off and the
superior would remain—that is, the fittest would survive.… The more I
thought over it the more I became convinced that I had at length found
the long-sought-for law of nature that solved the problem of the
origin of species." Charles Darwin
Unless you actually read what Thomas Malthus wrote,you will have no
idea just how anti-scientific the leap from national supremacy to
"survival of the fittest" actually is -
"Till at length the whole territory, from the confines of China to the
shores of the Baltic, was peopled by a various race of Barbarians,
brave, robust, and enterprising, inured to hardship, and delighting in
war. Some tribes maintained their independence. Others ranged
themselves under the standard of some barbaric chieftain who led them
to victory after victory, and what was of more importance, to regions
abounding in corn, wine, and oil, the long wished for consummation,
and great reward of their labours. An Alaric, an Attila, or a Zingis
Khan, and the chiefs around them, might fight for glory, for the fame
of extensive conquests, but the true cause that set in motion the
great tide of northern emigration, and that continued to propel it
till it rolled at different periods against China, Persia, italy, and
even Egypt, was a scarcity of food, a population extended beyond the
means of supporting it." Thomas Malthus
I mean,this is great stuff if you like opinions about invasion of
another country ,rape, pillage and whatever but as a basis for
biological evolution,well....
The only safe haven at the moment is astronomy,the technical issues
and its geometric foundations provide a very strong platform for
countering ideologies which are neither particularly scientific or
religious but unfortunately there is some difficulty in finding people
who actually like astronomy and its reasoning from the racket going on
about science vs religion or the new tendency to see them as separate
entities but buddies.
.
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