Re: why are moonrise durations uneven?



On Mar 26, 9:56 am, "jonisa...@xxxxxxx" <jonisa...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 26, 12:08 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Mar 26, 12:56 am, flyguy <fly...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

palsing wrote:
On Mar 25, 10:41 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

...surely there are genuine astronomers with

enough sense to determine the dual 360 degree motions wrt the central
Sun.

*************

Then surely you can find one... just one will do, and report back here
with a name and contact information... and maybe until then you just
pipe down.

Is this guy oriel36 claiming that the inclination of the earth's
rotational axis in relation to it's orbital plane is *not* what causes
the solstices, equinoxes and in general the seasons?

The specific way a planet orbits the Sun causes seasonal variations
and none of you appear capable of drawing this conclusion directly
from observations -

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infrared/UranusAo/ur_time_2001_2005.jpg

The role of 'tilt' is simply whether a planet has Equatorial like
seasons such as the Earth or polar like qualities such as Uranus but
'tilt' causes nothing.

With observations on my side and planetary comparisons as a guide I
leave you with your 'tilting' Earth or rather,the inability to
appreciate the specific way a planet orbits the Sun to cause the
seasons and the variations in the natural noon cycle when allied with
daily rotation.

Two motions is all it takes and there is not enough intelligence in
this forum to grasp the orbital motion and its specifics

As you say, there is not enough intelligence in this forum.  I think
you are wasting your wisdom on the stubborn folks who populate S.A.A.
and you would be wise to find another forum when they are more open
minded and able to grasp your perceptive understandings   This group
is just a bunch of old fuddy-duddys.

Jon Isaacs

I know too well what spirit you wrote that response in however the
sequence of images of Uranus still remains as the sole arbiter as to
intelligence and specifically the interpretive faculties which
recognise scales and distances from Earth to Uranus and from Uranus
and its orbital motion around the central Sun.

It still means having to find genuine individuals who can work with
21st century imaging and concerns that identify that the seasons are
strictly a product of the orbital specifics with rotational
orientation providing a different role in determining what seasonal
qualities (Equatorial/Polar) a planet has.

Time to grow up for some people and use that intuitive intelligence
which searches out a more productive arrangement of facts to arrive at
more productive working principles and conclusions.For you and
others,I would not care if you never seen those images and the orbital
story they tell in terms of effects -

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infrared/UranusAo/ur_time_2001_2005.jpg

Your buddies are running around trying to tell everyone how to lead
their lives by using CO2 to predict that the sky is falling but the
same people can't even account for temperature variations over the
year using two basic motions of the Earth.


.



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