Re: Geosynchronous orbits

On May 15, 12:53 am, "dkel...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <dkel...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On May 14, 5:55 am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On May 13, 7:37 pm, skywave <skyw...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

oriel36 wrote:
On May 13, 5:14 pm, palsing <pals...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Feckwit wrote:

I seriously do not know why or how intelligent people are willing to
ignore the orbital specific...

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The reason is pretty simple, it is because it doesn't exist, except in
your little pea-sized brain, it is an imaginary force, only required
when investigating a specific frame of reference.

If you could only understand the frames of reference concept properly,
then all would be clear for you. Your orbital specific (Magical
Mystery Motion) disappears when viewed from a higher frame.

The dynamicists already come pretty close but insist on the wandering
'analemma' Sun thereby infusing the orbital specific with rotational
'tilt',an entirely counter-productive  exercise -

"A sun-synchronous orbit is a retrograde orbit (that is, a spacecraft
in such an orbit will move opposite to the Earth's spin direction)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-synchronous_orbit

I am sure that genuine guys would jump at the chance to consider
orbital motion in isolation,and the unique qualities of Uranus in
terms of individual and solar system structural characteristics
provide exactly that thereby replacing the pseudo-dynamic of variable
inclination with the orbital specific.

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1999/11/video/b

Anyway,these things are only useful when they answer questions which a
relevant for others in their own  investigations,lighting up an area
that has been dormant or sending information in a new
direction.Dynamicists have no reason to be hostile to me yet due to an
addiction for a celestial sphere universe and with the choice of
framehopping galore,it is difficult to find  dynamicists with  more
stable concerns such as those studying stellar dynamics and spherical
deviation.

You provide nothing but sour comments and I suppose that is better
than nothing but your comments  reflects  the majority position than
my own which is mostly a private  but positive affair.

Why can't we find any reference to your 'orbital specific' in
astronomical literature or anywhere on the Internet for that matter? Are
you really the *only* person on the planet that understands it or
perhaps you are the only one that doesn't get it. Which do you think is
more likely? Your position is about as "private" as anything can get
because it's all in your head.

Not at all,it is all in observations and I was surprised to find out
that even though they misinterpret the cause ,they actually know of
the effect -

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Dictionary/SUN_SYNCH_ORBIT/DI...

Studying  celestial dynamics is a wonderful endeavor but requires
qualifiers every now and again and that needs an astronomer.This is
just one case when it is easier to interpret the  imaging,see that the
effect is already known and apply the conclusion common to both cause
and effect.

What effect?
Dwight

Hi there Dwight

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-synchronous_orbit

The effect of 'precession' is not a consequence of the Earth's bulge
acting on the satellite but the actual cause is the Earth orbitally
turning beneath it,sort of like an orbital version of Foucault's
pendulum.

As the cause can actually be observed in the Hubble time lapse footage
of Uranus,I don't see how dynamicists,at least genuine ones,can ignore
it no more than they can ignore daily rotation as the cause for the
Foucault's pendulum effect.




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