Re: Cosmological Models and the Big Bang



Chris L Peterson <clp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:57:38 -0700 (PDT), palsing <palsing@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Every time you replied with 'We don't know', perhaps you should have
said 'We don't know YET', because science learns as it goes along...

Perhaps. But questions about the cause of the Big Bang, what came
"before", what is "outside" the Universe... these things may be
fundamentally unanswerable by science, and therefore always remain
purely philosophical questions ("philosophy" = "we don't know" <g>).

Y'know... I wrote the exact same thing. Then I thought for a moment
about it and decided that the eventual understanding of such things is
not quite so ... improbable.

I think perhaps a better way to put it is that the question will
remain fundamentally unanswerable /now/, with our /current/
understanding of the nature of mathematics.

But who knows what our concept might encompass a millennia from now?
Or ten millennia, or a hundred? Mathematics coupled with the
scientific method have done some amazing things to expand our
understanding of the universe. It's not impossible that they could
one day surpass what we currently see as a fundamental limit to
inferential logic--i.e., the problem of answering the question of what
started the thing that started the thing that started the thing that
started the universe.
--
Dave
.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Up to my neck, trying not to get in over my head
    ... science has largely stopped trying to disprove common descent of all ... Let me take the age of the Universe as an example (since this is close ... For the Universe as a whole, we can measure distances to galaxies ... current understanding, or is more just in the refining-the- existing- ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: A preliminary look at Spoonerisms
    ... This alternative universe is one of application and practice, ... skinner, defies notice, defies language, defies accountable. ... to me this science could if it choose contradict this narrow set, ... with those sharing a similar understanding. ...
    (comp.ai.philosophy)
  • Re: Is physics really a matter of belief?
    ... I merely hesitate to agree with "as stated in physics". ... Science does definitely not benefit from it. ... with universe you meant biology too. ... Full understanding of brain is still quite quite remote. ...
    (sci.physics)
  • Re: Pitfalls of science. . .
    ... our Universe. ... I embrace science. ... I would like to make the point that RELIGION has not brought wars. ... I would agree that science is a much more accurate search for understanding. ...
    (sci.energy)
  • Re: Pitfalls of science. . .
    ... our Universe. ... I embrace science. ... I would like to make the point that RELIGION has not brought wars. ... I would agree that science is a much more accurate search for understanding. ...
    (sci.physics)