Re: The 3 minute 56 second illusion

In article <4b95156d-3f48-4b0c-a0f5-cb2ec8d5b6a8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
palsing <palsing@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 9, 12:02 pm, Morten Reistad <fi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

And why so many of them are attracted to astronomy, even if they
get it totally wrong even at the outset.

These basic frame of reference errors are very common among
students.

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I agree. The difference is that you can explain to the student why his
error is an error, and with patience and an able teacher, he will
quickly get it right.

Unfortunatley, this is not true of Gerald, he seems to have no
capacity to learn anything that might change the way he views the
universe. He feels that his intelligence is 'intuitive' and he rejects
empirical data and calls it irrelevant.

He seems to be stuck in a cargo cult style 24-hour grid. He frequently
uses the lat/lon 260 degree navigational grid as an argument-by-proxy
for using a 24 hour reference frame, and ignores that one is a time
and another is a set of angles.

He sort of answered the focault pendulum reference; with answer
of 24 hours sharp as rotational reference. Which can be disproved by
experiment.

So, he seems stuck in an "ideal solar" reference frame, and hasn't
gotten around to the problems with that, in that stars cannot rotate
around us without violating relativity in terms of speed, and that
intertial reference frames are inherently sidereal.

I have seen lots of students balk at physics concepts, but rarely
this early in the curriculum.

-- mrr


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