Re: Climate change

On 4 July, 00:28, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:52 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

oriel36 wrote:
On Jul 3, 12:48 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
   That's because any one of us can make the same measurement
   and see that it is true.... that's the beauty of science,
   it is repeatable, verifiable.

How does an Iowa farm boy come to the conclusion that a star returns
in 24 hours 3 minutes 56 seconds or 3 minutes 56 seconds later each
night ! -

   Between shelling corn and bailing hay, I studied mathematics, physics
   and astronomy. But what really clinched it for me was the successive
   occulations of Vega by the power line to the east of the farm house
   at intervals of 86,164.09 seconds.

Try a world globe,spin it through 360 degrees -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/World_globe.jpg

Any individual who makes the smallest possible contribution in the
effort to restore astronomy,and yes,even the promotion of the
'sidereal time value as a wonderful observational convenience based on
timekeeping averages is acting out of goodness for the great heritage
of the past and for future generations.

I have done enough to emphasise that it is the reasoning behind the 24
hour/360 degree value rather than just an expression of a simple fact
which constitutes the core distinctions between an astronomer and an
astrologer as the tendency to fabricate observations to arrive at the
'sidereal time' value is nothing more or less than the same type of
reasoning which denies a supreme achievement bound up in putting men
of the surface of the moon.After 6 years of unrelenting hostility here
and you can still give that value without fear of objection indicates
just how severe the problem actually w unas.

So Sam,it is Independence day in more ways than one,the end of a
tragedy and the beginning of a human triumph.

Try the world globe yourself.
Point the north pole to a distant point simulating polaris.
Now move the globe round an object representing the sun, keeping the
pole aligned with the same point.
Note that to keep looking at the sun thoughout an orbit you will have
to turn 360 degrees relative to the globe's axis. This is the extra
rotation which makes the siderial day less then the mean solar day.
It's obvious that you have limited powers of imagination and
visualisation or you wouldn't keep making the same mistakes.
Try this demonstration several times until you understand. If you
still have problems let someone else go through the simulation and
explain it to you.
.

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