Re: question about posts
- From: oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:10:36 -0700 (PDT)
On Oct 18, 9:48 pm, Martin Brown <|||newspam...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Jerry Right wrote:
Anybody who's read my recent thread knows I'm new here and unfamiliar
with rules of the group, but I see numerous posts about life on Mars and
religious stuff. I take it this group is not moderated?
I am afraid it goes with the territory. Astronomy attracts its fair
share of delusional nutters with "proofs" of why Einstein was wrong.
The thing is that mathematicians have been dumping so much junk into
the celestial arena since Newton that all that is left are a few
hopeless cases who believe in 'time travel' and magnification drones
who couldn't care less whether the Earth is round and rotating.
I knew something was really wrong after demonstrating that modern
imaging displays the resolution for the Earth's planetary orbital
dynamics by accounting for the observed behavior of the other planets
as opposed to the really silly approach Newton took ,in fact,it is
still the major litmus test as to whether a person is an astronomer or
a follower of a mathematician who mangled the insight -
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0112/JuSa2000_tezel.gif
"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes
stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are
always seen direct.." Newton
I have found that nobody understood Newton in the first place,not just
the technical details where he conjures up his own ideas of the
insights and methods of astronomy but the actual approach he took to
fit the idea that there is no distinction between the behavior of
objects at a human existence level andf at a level o planetary
dynamics.How many in saa today can tell you what Newton's absolute/
relative space and motion is in terms of his false approach to and
resolution of retrogrades or absolute/relative time in respect to the
difference between natural noon and clock noon,the horror is not that
Newton was wrong but there may be nobody around to know what is right.
Even when shown that the rotation of the constellations around Polaris
never had any significance for astronomers stretching back to
antiquity in terms of the noble equable day/calendar timekeeping
systems nor,more recently, in terms of explaining planetary dynamics
there is a dismal insistence that the daily motion of the
constellations can supply an explanation that it does and this I can't
get my head around,When offered Ra/Dec as a calendar based
observational convenience that it is,people positively refuse to
accept the sprawling history surrounding the references for daily
rotation (24 hours) and annual orbital motion (365 days 5 hours 49
min) and even the recent development of accurate clocks which act like
rulers of distance using 15 degrees of geographical separation
equating to 1 hour organised around the Earth's rotational
characteristics.
Unlike the ability to avert a financial meltdown by acting
courageously or rather,not ignoring the problem,there is no authority
in existence to handle the much more serious matter of empiricism and
the junk education and merit system which will continue to rot Western
society from the inside for who today,with the enormous advances in
imaging power and technology would even consider 'time travel, and
other kitch they thought was exciting a century ago.
Astronomers here ?,how I wish it was so !.
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