Re: We have the basic elements for a "warp drive"

From: asps (asps.ra1_at_flashnet.it)
Date: 06/22/04 

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:54:14 +0200

"Laura" <laura@nospam.me> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> > "Laura" <laura@nospam.me> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> > > > www.asps.it/nucleoin.htm
> > > >
> > > > we are doing TdS1 thruster more fast
> > > >
> > > > www.asps.it/dinpnn.htm
> > >
> > > This isn't a warp drive. If you insist on using Star Trek terminology,
> > maybe
> > > it's an impulse drive :-)
> > >
> > [first excuse my english]
> >
> > > The warp drive hypothesis calls for space itself to be compressed in
> front
> > > of the vessel,
> >
> > "space compression" has no physical meaning ...
>
> Of course it does. It may not be part of the device you're working on, but
> that doesn't render it meaningless :-)

may be

>
> > we can say only that our pnn
> > thruster "swim" in the e.m. field
>
> Yes. All I'm saying is that to call it "warp drive" is fundamentally
> incorrect. What you potentially have there should be called something
else.
> "Warp" means "bend" or "deform". Your device doesn't bend or deform
> anything.

by an euristic meaning it might be said that the pnn e.m. mass is warped
into itself ..... but i don't like to fly upper .... i like to fly much
more lower

>
> >
> > >thus physically shortening the distance that must be traveled
> > > to get to the destination. Not all of the distance at once, though -
> just
> > a
> > > tiny bit of it, and once the vessel has passed through that, another
> tiny
> > > bit, and so on. It could be described as creating a "wave" in space,
and
> > > then surfing that wave. It is purely hypothetical. We have no
practical
> > idea
> > > of how to provide the enormous amounts of energy required to do
> something
> > > like this, and even if we did, we'd have to find a way of warping
space
> > with
> > > it.
> >
> > no enormous amount of energy are required becouse pnn thruster doesn't
> > vilolate momentum and energy conservation ...
>
> I wasn't describing the energy requirements of your pnn thruster. I was
> describing the hypothetical warp drive - a means of propulsion that works
by
> deforming local space so as to shorten the distance to be traveled,
allowing
> the craft to cover greater distance in a shorter time, possibly faster
than
> the speed of light. It could be described as a "bubble" of deformed space;
> within that bubble, the craft flies at slower than light speeds, but the
> bubble itself is hurtling along at faster than light speeds. Thus, the
craft
> doesn't have to accelerate to that speed, and the crew won't have to be
> subjected to either a very very long wait or to lethal G-forces.
> Of course, to achieve this effect, extreme gravitic effects would have to
be
> somehow generated, and that would require monstrous amounts of energy
input
> to a generator we don't even have a design for yet. Warp drive is very
much
> a hypothetical thing :-)

the only way , on my opinion for FTL perspetives is to work on mass
reduction as velocity increse .....in every sense it must go round the
relativity theory ... i want to be clear : not to contest relativity but to
go round it .....

>
>
> > when it increase its kinetic energy it decrease its magnetic potential
> > energy ........ so its e.m. mass decrease as soon as pnn velocity
increase
> > .......
> > http://itis.volta.alessandria.it/episteme/ep6/ep6-asps.htm
> > http://itis.volta.alessandria.it/episteme/ep7/ep7-asps.htm
>
> I'm sorry, but I don't speak italian.

the same is for me for english ........

> You really should think about an english version of your site - especially
> if you want responses from people on the sci newsgroups.

it take for me much time....

>
> >
> > > The beauty of the idea is that the vessel itself wouldn't have to move
> > > faster than the speed of light;
> >
> > i don't know what a pnn system might do ..... we make experiments about
> 450
> > MHz and 50 Watt ..... we strongly suspect that velocity incerase in a
no
> > linear manner as frequency and energy increase
>
> Does the math say it will?

the thrust in first approximation goes as i^2 (i=current) besides
simultaneously mass decrease as velocity increase ...but but i haven't in
great care mathematical prediction ..... becouse math .... said me before
SC2.12 that pnn is impossible :) .........

> Or do you just suspect it?

is better to say that i suspect it for the fact that i and asps members
like to fly at 10 inch from the ground....

>
> >
> > >the deformation in space could do that
> > > instead, and the vessel would simply stay within this wave in space.
> > >Such a
> > > wave could possibly break the lightspeed barrier, since it is neither
> > matter
> > > nor electromagnetic radiation.
> >
> > as the e.m. mass of a pnn system decrease as soon as pnn velocity
> increase
> > we have good perspectives for FTL travels
>
> Will normal matter even survive faster than light travel?

i don't know

>
> >
> > >Whether it really could, however, remains to
> > > be seen.
> >
> > we need to increase energy and frequency of TdS1 thruster to see if FTL
> > travels might be possible ....
>
> How long would your device have to accelerate to see if it can or not?

we have problems with thermal control......
we need to receive a budget for other experiments such as a power and
frequency increase .... but all industries that we contact try to take or
better "to warp" the pnn know-how without giving us nothing
www.asps.it/enti.htm
..........
so from such bad experiences we have a procedure to test the correctness of
who say to help "asps pnn"
www.asps.it/propnn.htm ...but..but...it is in italian

Regards

E.Laureti

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