How ST00PID is Fucknozzle Jay?

From: Cujo LeSockpuppet (cujo_at_petitmorte.net)
Date: 07/29/04 

Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:36:47 +0000 (UTC)

Fucknozzle AKA Jay Stevens AKA usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote
in news:KgD6J36Lsfq6@gm461C7dnauWxW:

> In article <sthgg05sp7p2dma51dtc1afaspo94g2kr2@4ax.com>,
> jamie eckles (aka dr.postman) <jamieemps@mindspring.com>
> Look@mysig.foremail posted:
>> [...]
>
> Why did you drop out of your recovery in Narcotics Anonymous?

Evidence? Let's see some for a change, Fucknozzle!

I'm W-A-I-T-I-N-G.

If you need to stoop this low with going RL, you might consider actually
researching the subject of NA. There's no shortage of things you could
come up with and this was the best you could do? Hell, you're supposed to
be a "Dr.". <snicker>

>From where I sit, you're a lying coward.

So where did you get your doctorate, Fucknozzle? Why did you change your
name from Jay Stevens and pretend to be an Indian?

A real "Dr." would know that even if he did drop out of NA, which he
didn't judging by the BBQ I went to with him a few months ago, it doesn't
actually mean he started abusing substances. You're one st00pid
motherfucker, Fucknozzle.

Or are you advocating staying hooked on a program? That's pretty funny
for someone claiming to be a "Dr.". But let's be fair, Fucknozzle: What
is your doctorate in, where did you get it and when?

Let me know.

> Go back to alt.recovery.na where you can actualy help yourself.

Try reading that group first, ***. It's filled with trolls these
days. Another thing that seems to escape your neuron is this: Not posting
on a NG is not the same as going back to doing drugs, dumb***.

OOPS! I forgot you're even stupid enough to believe that alt.fan.jai-
maharaj was established to show how much people liked you, cretin.
 
> Here's one of your previous posts:
>
>> From: jamiemps@usa.pipeline.com(Jamie E.)
>> Subject: Re: How this NG and NA can be percieved
>> Date: August 5, 1996

A post from eight fucking years ago? You didn't even get the attributions
straight, you stupid ***. So where does it say he quit NA, recovery or
even continued to abuse any substances, you lying Fucknozzle?

AFAIK, he hasn't abused any substances in well over a decade. That
includes legal stuff like alcohol, sleeping pills and other over the
counter crap.

You're just so desperate to shut someone up from pointing out that your
whole life is a delusion that you'll dredge up anything and hope nobody
actually reads it in the vain hope it'll discredit them. You're a piece
of ***, Fucknozzle.

Let's see the rest of your "evidence":

>> Message-ID: <4u5mkq$k73@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
>> references: <anon-0408962126570001@max2-so-ca-43.earthlink.net>
>> newsgroups: alt.recovery.na,anon@penet.fi,(venusisle)
>>
>>
>> On Aug 04, 1996 21:26:55 in article <How this NG and NA can be
>> perceived>, 'anon@penet.fi (venusisle)' wrote:
>>
>>
>> >1. I kicked heroin without NA.
>> >I am all for NA!
>> >If it works for you, please do it.
>>
>> I'm glad that you found a way - in fact thank God that you did.
>> Some of us have found that the drugs we used were just a symptom
>> of a deeper problem. I was an *** before I got clean - when
>> I stopped using I was just an unloaded ***. For me there had
>> to be more than just mere physical abstinence.
>> >
>> >2. I was not planning on quitting alone.......but
>>
>> And you never have to be if you don't want to be - there are so many
>> support programs in the world that are there for you if you want.
>> >
>> >3. I was told that unless you do the NA way , you will always remain
>> >a
>> junkie.
>> >Sorry but it is ONE of several ways that works. As humans we do
>> >possess freewill, if we can grasp it. This mentality only makes NA
>> >seem like a cult, and takes away from it's credibility in my eyes.
>> >It made me want to do it alone. True believer mentality is
>> >dangerous.
>>
>> Whoever told you that was full of *** - did you check their eye
>> color? (opps-
>> wait a minute - my eyes are brown too - damn). No place in our
>> literature
>>
>> does it say that NA is the only way. Since our program deals with
>> the disease of addiction I, for one, did not get clean just to
>> become addicted to NA. There are members who's whole life and
>> thinking are centered in NA in one form or another - they are still
>> controlled by the disease not in the
>> will of their Higher Power. To these people NA is their god, and
>> thou shalt
>> have no false gods before me! Stay away from these folks, if they
>> stay clean
>> they will eventually get tired of trying to convert others to their
>> religion. There
>> ARE other great forms of programs like SMART and Rational Recovery as
>> well as other wonderful 12 Step programs - check out other NA groups
>> - check out
>>
>> other programs and Fellowships - find what works and GO FOR IT -
>> recovery is
>> not a game, too many people die from this disease to play around with
>> it. Also,
>> for me willpower didn't have anything to do with my disease - I went
>> to tremendous
>> lenghts to get loaded exhibiting a great amount of willpower.
>> >
>> >4. This news group does carry the NA name, and sorry, but if this is
>> >what recovery did to some of you, it was probably better that I had
>> >to go it alone.
>>
>> We are all at different stages in recovery - take what you like and
>> leave the
>> rest. Winners aren't always winners and losers aren't always losers -
>> you never
>> know who might be the right one to say the right thing. This
>> newsgroup does
>> not reflect the Fellowship of NA - it is a new and strange medium -
>> all newsgroups
>> have a different quality about them that differs them from the real
>> world. I have
>> 2 great posts on the nature of newsgroups that are funny and
>> informative - Email
>> me and I will be happy to send them to you
>> >
>> >5. The adverse opinions I have seen on this NG, also took place in a
>> >few meetings that I did attend.
>>
>> But at those meetings there is a face to what is said and
>> consequences to what
>> is said - some meetings are better than others and I hope you check
>> some more
>> out. I have seen rude and devicive people get themselves in a
>> position where
>> they feel unwelcome at meetings that they go to to cause trouble -
>> consequences
>> for their actions, and sometimes they own up to them and get better -
>> that doesn't
>> happen on a newsgroup - no need for folks to worry about what they
>> say if they
>> never meet face to face - I try to watch what I post and own up to
>> when I am
>> wrong because I hope to meet a lot of theses folks at this years
>> World Convention.
>>
>> >
>> >I might attend more meetings anyway. But I am clean because I chose
>> >to be.
>>
>> >The above scenarios really made me not dig the whole NA
>> >thing.......but I will still consider it's redeeming qualities.
>>
>> I hope you will post what you have found that has improved you life -
>> anybody
>> who can arrest this disease has something to offer - even if it goes
>> against some
>> who make NA their dogma. I have found that when someone has learned
>> something
>> positive they can't help but enrich my life, even when I can't find
>> anything that would
>> apply to me - it can still provide hope.
>> >
>> >My point is that I would of embraced it more ( and I needed the
>> >help), if these things were not constantly being blasted at me every
>> >time I came near NA.
>>
>> Read the NA literature - get familiar with it so that when dogmatic
>> members
>>
>> try to preach to you you can ask them why the literature doesn't
>> agree - that
>> worked for me because you are pointing out the irony of the
>> difference between
>> what you can read and what they preach - at least they may leave you
>> alone so
>> you can find more positive people who live the program - not just
>> preach it.
>> >
>> >These are just my experiences.....so no stress replies please.
>>
>> I wish you well and thanks for sharing your experience.
>>
>> Love & Huggs,
>> Jamie E.

You're pathetic, Jay. Want to try digging up some nasty evidence on me,
Fucknozzle? I can use the cheap entertainment. 

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