Re: The Cost of Relativity

From: Jarad Schiffer (jaradschiffer_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 08/02/04


Date: 2 Aug 2004 10:19:34 -0700


"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<2n4cacFrg5umU1@uni-berlin.de>...
>> And of course, "Double-A" outright lies
> when he states:
> "You never debate anything! ",
> as I am the one who is constantly and aggressively
> trying to get him and the sci.physics Taliban
> to join the issues, and attack messages,
> rather than attack messengers.

I have been trying to follow this thread a little, but you seem to
have 2 very basic misconceptions, Tom:

1 - that scientific issues such as relativity, etc., are decided by
debate.
2 - that the people on sci.physics, sci.astro, etc., are in charge of
which theories are accepted.

Neither of these are the case. Which hypotheses get accepted as
theories are determined by measurements. If you think you have an
improvement on relativity, or quantum mechanics, or whatever (and I
couldn't find any actual theory mentioned in any of your posts, just
ranting at people who were suppressing them....), then use the
hypothesis to make an experimentally measureable prediction that
differs from the old theory's prediction. Then do the experiment to
measure it. Then publish it in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. If
someone else can repeat it and get the same result as you, then voila!
new accepted theory.

Note that posting it to the internet isn't one of the steps above. The
scientific community doesn't base decisions on posts to sci.anything.
They only care about expermental data. It doesn't matter what the
people on sci.astro, sci.physics, etc. think, whether they believe you
or ignore you. Only concrete, testable predictions that are confirmed
by experiment matter.

Of course, that involves real work and effort, and a logically
consistent hypothesis that both makes new predictions and confirms all
of the previously tested predictions of relativity or whatever theory
you are trying to replace. So it seems unlikely that you will actually
try when posting trolls to the internet is so much easier....

Jarad



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