Re: I think I made a great Discovery

From: Trakar Shaitanaku (Trakar_at_sbcglobal.net)
Date: 09/05/04


Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:36:04 GMT

On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:38:27 +0000 (UTC), Iosif Karioannoglou
<vrokspam@freemail.gr> wrote:

>The creation of Earth and Moon
>by Iosif Karaioannoglou
>
>It was 3/9/2004 about 3:30 AM (Greek time = GMT + 2) when the idea came just right into my head. I
>was watching the moon orbiting the earth in a simulation computer program and searched in the
>internet for any information I could gather that indicates how the moon was created.
>
>Many think that the moon was created by a large planet (let's call it X) the size of Mars hitting Earth
>many million years ago with an effect of extracting a large pile of dirt that soon will become the Moon. I
>was searching our solar system trying to find that X planet. It would have to have an unusual shape
>with a large impact crater but I couldn't find the planet anywhere in our solar system. After a lot of
>search I actually found the planet X and it's position was the most unusual position that anyone would
>have imagined. We're actually standing on it. Now let's start from the beggining.
>
>Suppose there is a planet called Earth that has a water / ice atmosphere (and sulfur in or around the
>core which would explain why Earth would have a water atmosphere - it would have dehydrated every
>planet in the solar system - (Rivers on Mars?)). Suppose there is also a planet called Y that hits earth
>in a large impact. What would happen? Earth and Moon! The continents at the beggining of Earth
>creation was close together. Now imagine that large continent having a shape of a circle. Do you know
>what it's radius would be? Let's make some calculations. Right now the area of all the Earth surface is
>about 143.300.000 km. Area of circle = r^2 * pi -> r = sqrt(Area of circle / pi) -> r = sqrt(143.300.000 /
>pi) = 6755 km. The radius of the moon is 6331 km.
>
>This large impact I've just described would have cracked the surface of planet Earth creating what we
>call "Tectonic Plates". Through them some of the hot liquid elements in the center of earth (after being
>mixed with the alien materials from planet X) would want to escape out to the surface because of all
>the pressure planet X has caused in the center of Earth. This would instantly create massive volcanos
>that pushed the part of planet X that was above the water surface of the Earth away into the solar
>system. What we now call "impact crators on the moon" are really Earth's Volcanos hitting the Moon
>and thus making it orbit around Earth and making it move away from us.
>
>We always wondered why is Earth's surface unlike any other surface out in the solar system? Why
>don't we have that many impact crators? This theory can explain that. If we're living in the middle of
>planet we won't see that many impact crators will we? We need to search on the surface of the planet
>which now rests on the bed of oceans. We also wondered why is the Moon's surface more smooth on
>the "dark side of the moon" and not so smooth on the part that faces earth? If indeed there was a large
>asteroid fire on the early stages of the universe (which is what science believes right now) that caused
>that unusual shape of the Moon it would have affected Earth's surface too and probably more than that
>of the moon.
>
>About pangea.. If you look at the moon you will see the map (a bit distorted because of the size the
>moon took in the million years to come) you could actually identify our own continents / seas /
>mountaints on its surface. Remember that the elevation there is inverted. This could explain sufur
>found on the moon near those "impact craters"

I probably wouldn't use the same terminologies, and IMO, you have a
few "slightly imprecise" conceptual problems, but in general, this is
merely a minor variant of the largely concenusal opinion among those
who consider such, at this time.

A few minor revisions you may want to consider;

1) look to the antipodal of the impact site for the formation of the
first super-continent

2) look at the injection of lighter element phosphorus "injections"
into the deep mantle/outer core regions (the impactor core (as well as
the atmospheric density attenuation) may have provided the "critical
mass" heavy elements to push us over from being a tectonically
sporadic planet, to being one of the most tectonically active bodies
in the solar system (something I'd be willing to share credit for to a
large primary satellite, whose orbital center especially early after
it's formation, was in the upper mantle of it's primary ;-)

3) Though I suspect that life probably evolved prior to the
lunar-forming impact event. I suspect that the only life to survive
this event were some extremeophiles in a deep hot-rock environment.
All of the lessor variants were destroyed in the impact. In the
cleared environment (and it would greatly complicate matters of other
technological civilizations if such depends upon a duplication of this
aspect) the surviving extremeophiles fill the available ecosystem
eliminating competition from alternative RNA/DNA variants (now if
we're talking a survivor life-form from the impactor, we're anding yet
additional complications to the commonplace life arguments. If life as
we understand it requires abiogensis upon a small gravity world, but
then requires cultivation upon a high gravity, specially prepared,
long term tectonically active world to yield a likely crop of
metazoic, self-aware, technologically complex life-form, we may find
lots of mindless, genetically diverse, competing goo planets, but very
few where such as we exist).
;-)

much more but, you raise a potentially interesting discussion that
should be periodically, if not repeatedly, engaged upon, at least
within the topical bounds of this newsgroup, which should serve well.
;-)



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