Re: Grey Aliens On The Moon Re: Dark side of the moon

From: sts060 (sts060_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 09/09/04 

Date: 9 Sep 2004 05:48:07 -0700

Red Dust wrote:

>There's a brain drain to China right now.

Evidence for that assertion? As I've said, I've worked with Russian
and Chinese scientists. There's a lot more of them that come here
than U.S. citizens going over there. I do think (without any
statistics to back up that feeling) that this trend is slowing as the
Chinese economy grows and the political climate (slowly) changes, but
that is hardly a "brain drain", nor evidence that Chinese science is
currently ahead of U.S. science. Similar remarks apply in the case of
Russia, perhaps more strongly.

Red Dust also wrote:
>And the Russians and Chinese are collaborating on their space
programs.

Not very much. The Chinese are very intent on building a home-grown
space program, even if they derive their manned capsule design from
Russian heritage.

>Honest science in Russia and China is embraced, where as with NASA
their
>science is kept secret.
and
><snip posting of presumably copyrighted article, in its entirety,
about politics and science>

Well, there's a lot of commotion right now about the treatment of
science by political leadership, and that's a proper subject for a
debate. But the debate should go in another thread.

That still does not prove, or even support, your previous contention
that the U.S. is just now catching up to Russian and Chinese
science/technology of the Apollo era. I would like you to support
that claim before going off in another direction.

Also, leaving aside your assertion that "honest science in Russia and
China is embraced", what evidence do you have that NASA keeps their
science secret? Would you like a free subscription to NASA Tech
Briefs? Have you signed up for the daily and other periodic science
updates from various NASA centers? Have you been to a library to
browse the uncounted number of scientific and technical NASA
publications freely available? I'm not saying NASA is the embodiment
of all virtue or anything like that - it's just that this particular
statement is in stark contrast with easily available information, and
in order for me to take it seriously, you need to provide some
evidence to back it up.

One more thing - are you Happy Troll posting under another handle? If
so, fine, but what about my response to your previous claims that NASA
has no evidence for lunar landings after Apollo 11?

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