Re: OT: Historical Amnesia

From: Patrick Powers (frisbieinstein_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/25/04 

Date: 25 Oct 2004 02:57:13 -0700

Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness> wrote in message news:<Unrbd.44952$Lo6.20420@fed1read03>...

>
> I'll point a finger you can't slow with a thought; religions in
> general are bloody businesses.

Buddhism?

Even the Catholic religion hasn't had a sect war for a long, long
time.

Heck, even George W. Bush said "Islam is peace."

It's not even clear that the Isreal situation has that much to do with
religion. It is a matter of people getting kicked off their land. It
would be the same violence if they were all atheists.

>
> > Besides that I still don't understand why so many people - repeating
> > rifle being the most predominant here - tend to generalize so much.
>
> It's valid in that Muslims in general tacitly support their
> extremists by failing to denounce them. But then, critical discourse is
> rather strongly discouraged within Islam, same as within Xtianity
> historically.
>

A myth. Islam does not have an orthodoxy like the Catholic church
does, and hasn't had orthodoxy since shortly after Muhammed died. It
is more like Protestantism, with all sorts of sects. They disagree on
the most basic issues, and religion is considered a matter of personal
interpretation. If you want to see critical discourse, just go to
soc.religion.islam.

> Write a book making fun of the tenets of any Xtian church today, and
> what happens? You make some money, and the churches go on as if nothing
> happened. But, look what happened to the author of _The Satanic Verses_;
> there's a literal price on his head.
>

Of the 45 members of the Islamic council, precisely one, Iran,
supported that edict. The other 44 condemned it as unIslamic. Think:
why were you never before told that?

> > "Muslims" are not the same as "islamist terrorists". Sadly some people
> > just don't appear to be able to grasp that concept - strange considering
> > that "generalizations" was a grade school subject (at least in NY).
>
> So, make it a subject in Islamic schools...
>
> Mark L. Fergerson

Plenty, I think most Muslims have modern educations. This image of
them living traditional lives in shacks or caves served by camels is
just hokum. Go to Kuala Lumpur some day. It looks more modern than
most American cities. Great electric guitarists there too.

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