Re: The Origin of The Universe / S D Rodrian [vs. the eternal existence of the universe]

From: Ralph Hertle (ralph.hertle_at_verizon.net)
Date: 01/25/05 

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:57:22 GMT

Bob Kolker:

Your arguments are wearing thin.

robert j. kolker wrote:
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> Ralph Hertle wrote:
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>> Correct the errors, and the negatives will disappear.
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> It was Aristotle who made the errors. Do you know why? Because he didn't
> check. My twelve year old grandson proved that bodies of different
> masses do not fall in speeds proportional to their wieghts. How? He drop
> a big heavy ball and a small lighter ball from the same height and they
> hit level ground just about at the same time. A twelve year old kid, and
> he figured out the experiment without any help from me. Grown up
> Aristotle could not do half as well.
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> Bob Kolker

You refuse to give any credence to the ancient professors who often phrased
open (and not secret) exam questions to their students as paradoxes.
Pythagoras, Zeno and Aristotle are good examples of that.

You have said that you are studying the Ancient Greek language and
Aristotle. My question is that, is it not possible that Aristotle phrased
the falling object problem as a paradox and not as a question?

What is a question, or question mark, in Ancient Greek? How did teachers
phrase problems and exam questions for advanced students?

I suggest, also, that the translations, often by Platonist so-called
Aristotlelians, e.g., some of the later Christians, may have treated the
translations of the problems, not as paradoxes, but as assertions of fact.
They may not have had the complete context of knowledge necessary to
translate the matters correctly and as the matters were originally intended.

I think that, since we have all been to college, and have seen and
discussed all manner of scientific questions, that some latitude of
understanding may be appropriate.

Another question.....Don't empiricists such as yourself use 'statements of
problems' in your science?

Ralph Hertle

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