Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK

From: Brad Guth (bradguth_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 02/06/05 

Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:42:43 +0000 (UTC)

Uncle Al,
You know darn good and well that I can't ever manage to give any "little
hint", but I'll give it another try anyway.

1) First of all, you are correct; it has become damn hot and nasty on
Venus. Although, it has been cooling itself down as of lately.

2) Venus is however not always as hot and nasty, as within the extended
season of nighttime, even measurably less hot at most any good amount of
elevation. Istar Terra is somewht north and offers 10+km.

3) Why would any village idiot fool (such as your typical
stuck-in-the-box mainstreamer) have to utilize soldered connections?

BTW, haven't you folks never once heard of silver solder, and/or of
multiple other alloys of similar if not higher melting temperature?

4) Haven't there been circuits created via spot-weld and/or of fused
connections. Such as, I wonder how those tungsten filaments are attached
inside of their lightbulbs?. And, why upon Venus wouldn't that CPU be
into using miniature vacuum tubes, or perhaps of something
semi-conductive deposited upon the likes of pure diamond, or even upon a
wafer of pure basalt isn't such a half bad notion?

4a) What does anything radio, microwave and/or computer have to do with
being highly evolved, intellectual and thereby survival smart, thus more
than likely advanced and perfectly capable of making a tough go of it?

4b) I believe it has only been within the last 0.1% of the recorded
history of modern humanity that's into radio, and if going back into the
times prior to recorded history we're talking at most 0.001% of our
human like existence upon this Earth that has been using said
microwaves. And yet, it seems that as of today that most human have
become so intellectually self bigoted into being entirely blind as to
the proper usage of photons. Why is that?

5) Besides the rather obvious usage of metallic alloy wires that should
work just fine and dandy, why the heck wouldn't most performance
circuits have become optical?

5a) photons from 100% CO2 plasma offers a deep blue with a whitish
centre (perhaps 516.5 nm)
http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/pt/diamond/mwpecvd1.htm or how about that of a
CO2/N2/H3 deep/far IR laser beam that goes in for the kill at 10,600 nm,
or how about that of something more visual of 425 nm or nocturnal worthy
of mercury affording 365 nm that should offer nearly zero noise and
almost zero transmission losses unless that beam is diffused by having
to penetrate them clouds, whereas the likes of 425~450 nm should become
well enough diverged but none the less penetrate quite nicely, and of
whatever's 650~750 nm being efficiently reflected back towards Venus
should offer a perfectly good visual signal bounce path/range of nearly
1500 km.

6) Isn't silica another fairly common planetary element, and isn't the
toasty and crystal clean environment of what's mostly CO2 providing a
somewhat ideal environment as for processing such?

6a) Speaking of raw elements; isn't basalt yet another perfectly viable
alternative for circuitry infrastructure, on behalf of providing damn
good capacitor insulative layers, as per coating upon whatever wires and
affording absolutely all sorts of viable composites that'll easily take
on 811°K with lots of thermal tolerance to spare?

7) Pressure simply isn't a biological problem (never has been), whereas
the near Vacuum of Mars sucks the life right out of you almost as badly
as does our moon. Pressure certainly is not an issue for those miniature
vacuum tubes that should handle twice that amount of pressure, and then
some. Not that such a dry and mostly CO2 filled tube, as somewhat of a
perfect insulator or perhaps semi-conductor, is not all that
undesirable.

9) As far as acid corrosion; 'WHAT CORROSION', as there's only the most
absolute harmless sulphur crystals anywhere near and/or upon the
surface. Polished mild steel should remain mirror like for years. The
environment of Titan is corrosive, and mother Earth is certainly about
as corrosive as planets tend to get.

10) Since Venus was not always so hot and nasty, and not always hosting
such a thick and dense atmosphere (there being any number of
scientifically certified ways of proving that analogy), and even if
going by the gradual transition that most likely took thousands of years
shouldn't have been all that insurmountable. So, I guess that I don't
understand why life would not have managed quite nicely, as even now
there's no shortage of energy nor of easily accessible water, and of
folks efficiently storing that water as h2o2 should hardly have taken
any effort whatsoever.

10a) Since it's too late for salvaging Earth, what if some of that other
life upon Venus were visiting ETs, such as a team of planet
terraformers?

11) Of whatever natural evolution forms of life there is to behold, I'd
have to favor towards the nocturnal exoskeletals, or at least lizard
folk. Just think of a cockroach that's nearly 3 meters tall and nursing
one hell of an attitude, as in somewhat hot under the collar and just
looking as to make his day while kicking some serious *** for dinner.

12) Try to remember that planets like Mars, Earth and Venus probably
received their influx of panspermia and/or ET assisted terraforming
dosage of water at similar times. Since then, Mars has lost most of it's
water and perhaps even most likely of whatever became ice having long
since evaporated to the point of no return, Earth unfortunately retained
way too much of that nasty wet stuff and ended up with a rather lethal,
corrosive and extremely flammable environment that added sufficient
insult to the already difficult terrain, that which has essentially as
taken away 90% of the surface as for becoming not all that livable for
us humans, leaving 10%(roughly 5e13 m2) for the 6.5e9 and growing
numbers of folks to fight over dry land (especially those parts
containing natural gas and oil, or simply food). It seems that mother
Earth absolutely needed a moon so as to cause tidal induced weather by
modulating the oceans which in turn breaks up ice, as otherwise we'd be
half again as ice covered, and those cycles of ice-ages simply might
otherwise never have receded without the added influx cycle of a second
sun which also placed the likes of diatoms into overdrive. Venus may of
had the best chance of keeping a balance of surface and atmospheric
water, at least up until a few too many volcanos got a little overheated
and things somewhat started going to hell in a hand basket, with way
more geological contributions of atmospheric building elements arriving
each and every season into what was an already warm (300°K) environment,
thereby it was only a matter of time before reaching 725°K.

13) Fortunately for the folks and of whatever other life upon Venus,
having their pre-greenhouse millions of years in phase with an evolution
timeline of life as we know it, whereas their timeline of the transition
from 300°K to 725° didn't happen overnight, but rather over hundreds if
not thousands of years, and yet much of their original water influx is
still there to behold, or at least of a sufficient amount that's easily
accessible to all that evolved as somewhat better heathen status at
their survival skills than your typical village idiot moron that can't
think even a little outside the box.

13a) There's been nothing about Venus that stipulates it was even
created at the same time and place as Earth. There's absolutely nothing
in the laws of physics keeping such a planet as Venus and even the likes
of our moon from being born elsewhere and delivered into the clutches of
our solar system, that which is offered by others researching into the
likelihood that we've been traveling along with a significant group of
fairly massive star systems as somewhat independent of the Milky Way
galaxy.

14) Extracting pure water from those relatively cool nighttime clouds is
physics-101, meaning it's not rocket science. Converting that nasty
cloud substance into the likes of H2O (perhaps into H2O2 and then on
demand back into the likes of H2/O2 and/or H2O), is somewhat rocket
science but entirely doable without even having known the first thing
about radio. Just like it's doable to accomplish any amount of
CO2-->CO/O2 as long as you've got loads of available energy. Speaking of
such loads of energy, it's not so much a matter of obtaining as it's
about what to do with the enormous amounts of such easily extractable
energy, thus the question becomes how many mega, giga or terawatts do
you think you'd need?

BTW; instead of 'silicone polymers' I'd go with whatever's silica based,
along with basalt, iron and numerous other nifty substances hosting all
sorts of complex elements, and I believe that'll have to include diamond
which is certainly something carbon based. Of course, above all I'd have
to include a gram worth of actual intelligence which is entirely missing
from the sorts of know-thy-enemy and snooker-thy-humanity forums that
suck. The sort of "biology occurs at 480 C" is that of an evolved and
extremely intelligent form of biology that isn't dumbfounded every
minute of their lives, doesn't have those conditional laws of physics as
to screwing everything up, thereby clearly of something that you
couldn't possibly recognise even if it were less than a meter away
pointing it's exoskeletal nose directly at your fleshy nose that can
seem to even smell the loads of mainstream disinformation crapolla when
you're standing deep within it.

I suppose, if I were half as negative about the prospects of there being
other life outside of Earth, as persay clearly represented as the
negativity offered by the perverted mind-set of this and many other
forums that suck, I could always become a good Muslim and just go about
kicking as many Christian and Jewish butts as I could manage, join the
Taliban and follow in the likes of Osama bin Laden. At least their final
method of delivering an old message became perfectly clear to myself on
9/11, although thanks to our resident warlord(s), most Americans are
still way to dumbfounded and without remorse as to even realize the
importance of that message.

The message that I got was that we need to share and share alike,
respecting and thereby reinforcing the diversity of humanity as well as
the environment, rather than taking advantage of and/or artificially
creating every possible opportunity as to continually pillage at the
demise of others. This entire world need not have to live and act like
Americans, as God forbid if that should ever happen, and besides there's
no freaking way a sufficient supply of energy (10 kw/hr/soul) could even
be devised as to sustain that notion.

end of my "little hint".

Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm 

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