Re: Moon Landing a Hoax??!! Real Evidence here>>>

From: Art Deco (art_deco_at_127.0.0.1)
Date: 02/10/05


Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:09:43 -0700

Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Jay Windley" <webmaster@clavius.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
> cudfv0$vm3$1@news.xmission.com...
> >
> > "Warhol" <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:36t9qkF55ee9sU5@individual.net...
> > |
> > | ...you are afraid of the father in the heavens.
> >
> > I have no problem with God. It's his fan club that annoys me.
> >
> > | > Anyone can protest in words only that someone else is wrong. It takes
> > | > someone of actual skill and understanding to demonstrate the wrongness
> > of
> > | > someone else's ideas.
> > |
> > | you are joking? right.
> >
> > Not in the least. You say I'm propagandizing. Propaganda has two basic
> > properties: it is of questionable truth, and it is intended not to
> educate
> > the reader but instead to instill in him belief in some agenda. It is
> very
> > easy for anyone to name-call and leave it at that. But if you really
> > believed in your label you could show how my remarks are of questionable
> > truth, and you could give the evidence that I am aimed at some agenda, as
> > opposed to simply trying to correct an error.
> >
> > You have made one attempt at showing that I'm not telling the truth, but I
> > answered that challenge in spades and you declined to follow up.
> Therefore
> > that proof fails. As to whether I have some ulterior agenda, that's the
> > standard battle cry of all conspiracy theorists (i.e., that their critics
> > "must" be brainwashed into the "official" line). And sadly the argument
> for
> > that accusation is always circular. If you think you can do better,
> you're
> > welcome to try. But you haven't done it yet.
> >
> > Your arguments are like the parent who comes home and accuses his child of
> > stealing cookies from the cookie jar. He likes cookies, after all. And
> he
> > was home alone with the cookie jar. So "logically" he "must" have taken
> > some cookies. And even though your child protests his innocence, you
> stick
> > to the argument of motive and opportunity. You never actually go to see
> > whether there are any cookies missing from the cookie jar.
> >
> > So no, I'm not joking at all. I'm daring you to look in the cookie jar,
> but
> > you don't want to. Are you afraid you'll find all the cookies there?
> >
> > | Come on, how many years shall we go on with this lies.
> >
> > Depends on how many years you and other misinformed people keep telling
> > them.
> >
> > Above I pointed out that your arguments are just like those of other
> > conspiracy theorists -- it's all about suspicion and speculated motives
> and
> > innuendo, when many of the questions are answered simply by an appeal to
> > fact (in most cases, facts that you don't know). But actually discussing
> > conclusive facts won't do for a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theorists
> > only make money or maintain their celebrity status when the debate
> > perpetuates. If it's answered one way or the other (even in their favor),
> > their income dries up. That's why conspiracy theorist arguments are
> always
> > built around innuendo and speculation -- those can be spun indefinitely to
> > provide many years of comfortable ambiguity, idly questioning everything
> and
> > answering nothing.
> >
> > So you can bet when a conspiracy theorist demands proof, that's the last
> > thing he really wants to look at.
> >
> > | The day you can go back to the moon, warne me.
> >
> > We already went six times. What's so magical about the seventh, that it's
> > the one you should accept? When you can explain *coherently* what was
> wrong
> > with all the other missions, then you can argue for getting more data in
> > order to solve the question. Until then, the answers we have are doing
> just
> > fine.
> >
> > | Till than, i shall believe in my religion, and say whatever
> > | my religion permits me to say.
> >
> > And, apparently like many religions, to believe in that regardless of how
> it
> > stacks up to the facts everyone else can see.
> >
> > | > Quoting Pravda nonsense doth not you erudite make.
> > |
> > | It's not that you are working as decorator in a theater that makes
> > | you an expert on moon Questions.
> >
> > No, it's my college degree in engineering and my experience as a working
> > engineer for many years and as a historian of space technology that makes
> me
> > an expert on moon questions. You're welcome to try to demonstrate
> superior
> > understanding, if that's what you think will resolve the question in your
> > mind, but I wouldn't hold my breath doing it. So far you've displayed
> only
> > the ability to plagiarize and ramble.
> >
> > | SHALL THE ZOG TEMPLE SAVE THE WORLD, or shall be a simple Moorish man
> > | with his temple who shall take over that task, on him again? that
> > | would be the right question. and who to believe.
> >
> > But it's not about whom to believe. This isn't about personal
> credibility.
> > It's about what the facts say. I've provided the facts, and you have
> evaded
> > them.
> >
> > | > That depends on whether you can provide any verifiable evidence of
> your
> > | > premise.
> > |
> > | Go to india and ask them, or do google search and you shall find.
> >
> > Nope. I have no obligation to do your homework, nor to respond to
> > unsubstantiated accusations.
> >
> > --
> > |
>
> Only Liars use propaganda and repeat 1000 times the same bull SS ***. I
> told you already I don't agree to pay taxes to a temple collector that lies
> and produce no miracles ever. So go collect somewhere ells !!! Because this
> soul paid already to much for zog lies. And now go play with your stupid
> Zog's friends. Maybe they still believe in you and in the Magog temple
> liars.

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