Re: Moon Landing a Hoax??!! Real Evidence here>>>

From: Art Deco (art_deco_at_127.0.0.1)
Date: 02/10/05 

Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:01:41 -0700

Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Art Deco" <art_deco@127.0.0.1> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 090220052009438487%art_deco@127.0.0.1...
> > Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Jay Windley" <webmaster@clavius.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > > cudfv0$vm3$1@news.xmission.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Warhol" <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:36t9qkF55ee9sU5@individual.net...
> > > > |
> > > > | ...you are afraid of the father in the heavens.
> > > >
> > > > I have no problem with God. It's his fan club that annoys me.
> > > >
> > > > | > Anyone can protest in words only that someone else is wrong. It
> takes
> > > > | > someone of actual skill and understanding to demonstrate the
> wrongness
> > > > of
> > > > | > someone else's ideas.
> > > > |
> > > > | you are joking? right.
> > > >
> > > > Not in the least. You say I'm propagandizing. Propaganda has two
> basic
> > > > properties: it is of questionable truth, and it is intended not to
> > > educate
> > > > the reader but instead to instill in him belief in some agenda. It is
> > > very
> > > > easy for anyone to name-call and leave it at that. But if you really
> > > > believed in your label you could show how my remarks are of
> questionable
> > > > truth, and you could give the evidence that I am aimed at some agenda,
> as
> > > > opposed to simply trying to correct an error.
> > > >
> > > > You have made one attempt at showing that I'm not telling the truth,
> but I
> > > > answered that challenge in spades and you declined to follow up.
> > > Therefore
> > > > that proof fails. As to whether I have some ulterior agenda, that's
> the
> > > > standard battle cry of all conspiracy theorists (i.e., that their
> critics
> > > > "must" be brainwashed into the "official" line). And sadly the
> argument
> > > for
> > > > that accusation is always circular. If you think you can do better,
> > > you're
> > > > welcome to try. But you haven't done it yet.
> > > >
> > > > Your arguments are like the parent who comes home and accuses his
> child of
> > > > stealing cookies from the cookie jar. He likes cookies, after all.
> And
> > > he
> > > > was home alone with the cookie jar. So "logically" he "must" have
> taken
> > > > some cookies. And even though your child protests his innocence, you
> > > stick
> > > > to the argument of motive and opportunity. You never actually go to
> see
> > > > whether there are any cookies missing from the cookie jar.
> > > >
> > > > So no, I'm not joking at all. I'm daring you to look in the cookie
> jar,
> > > but
> > > > you don't want to. Are you afraid you'll find all the cookies there?
> > > >
> > > > | Come on, how many years shall we go on with this lies.
> > > >
> > > > Depends on how many years you and other misinformed people keep
> telling
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > Above I pointed out that your arguments are just like those of other
> > > > conspiracy theorists -- it's all about suspicion and speculated
> motives
> > > and
> > > > innuendo, when many of the questions are answered simply by an appeal
> to
> > > > fact (in most cases, facts that you don't know). But actually
> discussing
> > > > conclusive facts won't do for a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy
> theorists
> > > > only make money or maintain their celebrity status when the debate
> > > > perpetuates. If it's answered one way or the other (even in their
> favor),
> > > > their income dries up. That's why conspiracy theorist arguments are
> > > always
> > > > built around innuendo and speculation -- those can be spun
> indefinitely to
> > > > provide many years of comfortable ambiguity, idly questioning
> everything
> > > and
> > > > answering nothing.
> > > >
> > > > So you can bet when a conspiracy theorist demands proof, that's the
> last
> > > > thing he really wants to look at.
> > > >
> > > > | The day you can go back to the moon, warne me.
> > > >
> > > > We already went six times. What's so magical about the seventh, that
> it's
> > > > the one you should accept? When you can explain *coherently* what was
> > > wrong
> > > > with all the other missions, then you can argue for getting more data
> in
> > > > order to solve the question. Until then, the answers we have are
> doing
> > > just
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > | Till than, i shall believe in my religion, and say whatever
> > > > | my religion permits me to say.
> > > >
> > > > And, apparently like many religions, to believe in that regardless of
> how
> > > it
> > > > stacks up to the facts everyone else can see.
> > > >
> > > > | > Quoting Pravda nonsense doth not you erudite make.
> > > > |
> > > > | It's not that you are working as decorator in a theater that makes
> > > > | you an expert on moon Questions.
> > > >
> > > > No, it's my college degree in engineering and my experience as a
> working
> > > > engineer for many years and as a historian of space technology that
> makes
> > > me
> > > > an expert on moon questions. You're welcome to try to demonstrate
> > > superior
> > > > understanding, if that's what you think will resolve the question in
> your
> > > > mind, but I wouldn't hold my breath doing it. So far you've displayed
> > > only
> > > > the ability to plagiarize and ramble.
> > > >
> > > > | SHALL THE ZOG TEMPLE SAVE THE WORLD, or shall be a simple Moorish
> man
> > > > | with his temple who shall take over that task, on him again? that
> > > > | would be the right question. and who to believe.
> > > >
> > > > But it's not about whom to believe. This isn't about personal
> > > credibility.
> > > > It's about what the facts say. I've provided the facts, and you have
> > > evaded
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > | > That depends on whether you can provide any verifiable evidence of
> > > your
> > > > | > premise.
> > > > |
> > > > | Go to india and ask them, or do google search and you shall find.
> > > >
> > > > Nope. I have no obligation to do your homework, nor to respond to
> > > > unsubstantiated accusations.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > |
> > >
> > > Only Liars use propaganda and repeat 1000 times the same bull SS shit. I
> > > told you already I don't agree to pay taxes to a temple collector that
> lies
> > > and produce no miracles ever. So go collect somewhere ells !!! Because
> this
> > > soul paid already to much for zog lies. And now go play with your stupid
> > > Zog's friends. Maybe they still believe in you and in the Magog temple
> > > liars.
> >
> > Teh Way of teh Kook:
> >
> > <http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm>
> >
> > --

Newsgroups restored, coward:

>
> Well read this from your website;
>
> "Always back up your empty (albeit noisy) threats with phony LARTs, false
> police reports, and harassing letters to the FBI and other gubbermint
> agencies."
>
> Typical for Zog serpents, only stupid un-harmfull poison, when they are lost
> in this world of information. Poor Demons!!! Have they lost their
> tongue???????
>
> Zog= *** Fill in what you think a zog is.

Sorry, I don't speak kookese. 

-- 
"a photon can travel faster than light when it is not excited"
"Ions are attracted to IRON"
"The dense ions in the ionosphere are simulating a 
 much higher gravitational pull to earth."
        -- Alexa Cameron demonstrates her 200+ alien-implanted IQ
"I really don't care too much for humans"
"Just think of all the fun watching them from above while they
 dance their kooker-step on their burning planet ..."
        -- Chuckweasel Bohnehead's delusional non-human self-image

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