Re: Pioneer Anomoly


"oriel36" <geraldkelleher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Well if it is'nt my two pets George and Jon showing up in the same
> thread.You should be grateful that I spared you from the spacetime
> nonsense and showed you that Newton was an incredible nuisance and by
> association -his empirical disciples.,nothing more or nothing less.

You have showed nothing whatsoever, Gerald, every
time I show you the quotes from "De Revolutionibus"
you just run away. You are incapable of arguing even
the simplest points.

I have had to explain the correct meaning of the word
"heliocentric" to you several times now yet you continue
to misuse it. You seem unable even to use a dictionary.

I also showed you that Copernicus and Newton had exactly
the same views on the rotation of the Earth, where you
said:

> What Isaac did was just plain funny in keeping the 'fixed stars' and
> re-introducing a quasi-geocentric concept -
>
> "PHAENOMENON IV.
> That the fixed stars being at rest, ..."

yet that was exactly what Copernicus had said:

"The first and the highest of all is the sphere
of the fixed stars, which contains itself and
everything, and is therefore immovable. It is
unquestionably the place of the universe, to
which the motion and position of all the other
heavenly bodies are compared."

No difference there Gerald, Copernicus said all
motion must be related to the stars long before
Newton repeated him.

> Are you not embarrassed that a sincere Christian can move between
> Copernican/Keplerian/Roemerian insights ...

But you cannot Gerald, you keep saying things
that are exactly the opposite of Copernicus.

For example, he said:

"To this circle, which goes through the middle
of the signs, and to its plane, the equator and
the earth's axis must be understood to have a
variable inclination. For if they stayed at a
constant angle, and were affected exclusively by
the motion of the centre, no inequality of days
and nights would be observed. On the contrary,
it would always be either the longest or shortest
day or the day of equal daylight and darkness, or
summer or winter, or whatever the character of the
season, it would remain identical and unchanged."

Do I really have to go digging up what you said about
the seasons being caused by "variable tilt". According
to you, Copernicus must have been a complete idiot.
You haven't the faintest clue what "the Copernican
insight" as you call it really was and I suspect you
never will, you are too wrapped up in your own
arrogance to ever learn anything. I'll give you a
hint, it had nothing to do with retrograde motion
but merely used that as a tool.

No, Gerald I'm not at all embarrassed that I can say
I am not a religious fundamentalist, in fact I am
quite proud of that. You and Zarqawi and bin-Laden
and Paisley and the rest can keep your primitive
superstitions and all the injustice and persecution
that comes from them. How does it feel to be part of
a group that has caused more wars and destruction
than anything else on the planet?

George


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