Re: Redshift without expansion


Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (29 Jun 2006 02:34:59 -0700) it happened "sean"
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Jan Panteltje wrote:
Well, I am not endlessly going to try defend something I just did read,
but think for a moment:
The changing electric field will generate a magnetic field 'further away',
theat in turn will generate an electric field even further away....
The electric and magnetic fields are 90 degrees out of phase.
So one 'vector' is rotating sin(w.t) and the other cos(w.t) where 'w'
is 2 x pi x f.
Yes thats sort of the way Ive read it too.
Now I say,... change that picture slightly. Instead of two rotating
fields, make it one. A combo flux/magnetic field. And its flux is
constant in that it does not oscillate in amplitude and only decreases
with brightness over distance.


Then, have that field rotate 360 at
right angles to direction of propogation so that the flux/mag rotates
sort of like a turning corkscrew looked at from the front .

Some remarks (call it reality check if you like), you know TV transmissions
are transmitted on UHF and VHF polarized (horizontal in Europe, maybe
vertical in the US?)

You do not see the TV antennas 'tilted' like this \ or this the further
away you are from a station.
You will find a maximum always at -- or | depending on the transmitter
polarization.
I didnt know this. Thanks for this information
Let me guess. In Europe they build the broadcast tower vertical and in
america they save money and lay it out flat on the ground? ;-)
Seriously though I must study up some more on how this is done. I cant
imagine how a radio broadcast can be polarized.

But my model can still accomodate this. Each atom in the recieving
antennae are randomly oriented . Something like this...
-/\-|/-|\-\-/|-\-

And if the broadcast is polarized all like this...
-----------------

then the reciever gets these ones...
- - - - - - -

A bit weaker reception but coherent. In fact I imagine thats
why they do it so as to get a clearer reception and less
ghosting, etc.
Then when
it hits any surface or filter lets say it gets polarized in that only
one angle of this rotating field is seen every cycle .

I think you should read up on electromagnetism, there are few mysteries
left on the polarization and frequency issue.
I did mention that we know the frequency received from a spacecraft
transmitter only depends on speed [Doppler], not on distance.
OK, we have not been really far out of the solar system...
But so far it holds.
Yes you mentioned this before. I dont think I can use this to explain
the pioneer anomaly as its blue shifted. Also any redshifting from
within the solar system in any model would have to be so small that it
couldnt be measured anyways I would have thought
I tried to work out an answer for Pioneer once but Craig got me tangled
up on that one. Although I still would like to look into whether or not
it could be the same effect as what causes the mercury precession.
I forget exactly the argument I tried but I think I figured its a
possibility depending on where one puts the mean half point of
mercuries orbit. But anyways I cant calculate that sort of stuff very
well so I gave up for the time being
Sean
www.gammarayburst.com

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