Re: Slowing of Universal Expansion by Gravity
- From: "oriel36" <geraldkelleher@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 18 Nov 2006 04:04:47 -0800
OG wrote:
"oriel36" <geraldkelleher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Also, do current observations show that the expansion
actually *is* slowed by self-gravitation? Or are they
possibly consistent with *no* slowing?
-- Jeff, in Minneapolis
They are misreading local rotation of the solar system within the Milky
Way galaxy for 'accelerating expansion' of the Universe.If a cloud
covers the Sun you do not say the Sun has disappeared from the
Universe,you just note what is happening locally and draw correct
conclusions.
Carry on !, I actually enjoy these things now without having to take
people who believe in 'accelearating expansion' seriously and you mean
no harm.
Ah, you are one of those people who prefer to ignore clear evidence you
disagree with. 'Without having to <. . . > seriously'
Sadly,few people appear to enjoy what Isaac was doing and that is a
real shame , insofar as trying to fit terrestrial ballistics into the
Ra/Dec system by way of planetary motion was not a bad attempt,it is
now almost hilarious to hear it as the 'Universal Law Of
Gravitation',at least for this 21st century person.It was a 17th
century attempt with 17th century data which owed nothing to the
productive astronomical working principles of Copernicus and the later
Keplerian and Roemerian refinements.
The astronomical cycles and its attendent geometry in motion dictate so
many things and make all this forcing shapes on the universe or the
geometry of orbital motions a worthless exercise.Dynamicists are
strongest in termns of process and evolution but certainly not in
gauging celestial structure and motion but being too greedy they end up
with conceptual monsters because of a silly error which introduced
celestial sphere geometry into planetary heliocentric orbital motion
as Newton did.
These one sentence reactions are useless yet I realise that is all you
can manage.I suggest you take the words of Copernicus to heart for
although he is referring to the antecedent astronomers ,his words
equally apply to the celestial sphere geometers (and Newton was one of
them).
". . although they have extracted from them the apparent motions, with
numerical agreement, nevertheless . . . . They are just like someone
including in a picture hands, feet, head, and other limbs from
different places, well painted indeed, but not modeled from the same
body, and not in the least matching each other, so that a monster would
be produced from them rather than a man. Thus in the process of their
demonstrations, which they call their system, they are found either to
have missed out something essential, or to have brought in something
inappropriate and wholly irrelevant, which would not have happened to
them if they had followed proper principles. For if the hypotheses
which they assumed had not been fallacies, everything which follows
from them could be independently verified." De revolutionibus, 1543
Copernicus
Since you've decided it's OK to ignore evidence you have no part in posting
to sci. newsgroups.
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