Re: Laser ranging to moon begs questions


"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4723f221$0$875$afc38c87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>
: >>I wasn't taking the piss. I didn't know what you meant.
: >
: > That must local jargon, very local. Why would you clip out my
: > informatonal comment and save all the persiflage?
: >
:
:
: "Taking the piss" = "Mocking someone" in Australian. Sorry.

"Taking the piss" = "Mocking someone" in English too. I'd take
the piss out of the whingeing wanker if I were you.






:
:
: >>But if you mean that you are hoping that somebody who actually works at
: >>one
: >>of these facilities reads this ng, you are probably out of luck.
: >
: > No, an informational paper with the details. In the Pioneer program
: > there were all kinds of diagrams, and remarks that some data batches
: > were 5 days long.
:
:
: Craig posted references to a whole lot of papers. Have you looked at them?
:
:
: >
: >>You could
: >>just phone one of the observatories or visit one in person; I am sure
that
: >>they would be tickled to have somebody display an interest in what they
: >>do,
: >>and would be very helpful.
: >>
: > Actually, one of the OP's on this thread, who earlier was quite
: > voluble in the opinion that processing single photons was a "piece of
: > cake", who should be able to shed light.
:
: Why? Did he work at one of the observatories? If he didn't, I would think
: you would be far better off listening to Craig, who obviously has a lot of
: knowledge on the subject (and, I suspect, rather more than someone who
: described single photon capture as a "piece of cake").
:
:
: > I thought it would be
: > interesting to hear more.
:
: If the answers you want are not in the papers that Craig has referenced,
and
: Craig or myself can't answer them, then its pretty easy to call or visit
one
: of these observatories and ask them about how the equipment works, if you
: really want to know.
:
:
: > At least we're still on topic, "begging the
: > question".
:
: I don't see that. I can't see what "question has been begged". I cannot
see
: what question you have asked which has not been answered. The only
: substantive question I have seen is "why doesn't my calculation give the
: correct observed value for the return photon count". Many answers have
: already been given for this. Have you any other questions?
:
: Perhaps you would be better off going through the calculations in the
papers
: provided - which do supply the correct numbers - and see how the return
: photon count is calculated. You can then modify your calculation to match
: the parameters in the papers, and you should be able to find the error in
: your calculation yourself.
:
: If there is anything you can't understand in the papers, you can ask for
: clarification here. If I can help, I will (although whilst I know a lot
: about EM radiation and information theory, I know nothing about the
details
: of the experimental setup. Craig does seem to know a lot about the
: experimental setup as well; if you ask nicely, I am sure he will help you
: understand the papers if I can't.)
:
: And, as I said, as a final resort ring the authors of the papers, or the
: observatories, or visit one yourself. I doubt this will be necessary, but
: that option always exists.
:
: So, what don't you understand in the papers that Craig has referenced?
:
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