Re: "Relative fitness" and other evolution pertaining

From: Peter F. (effectivespamblock_at_ozemail.com.au)
Date: 07/07/04 

Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:27:21 +0000 (UTC)

"John Edser" <edser@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:ccei6k$mmm$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
<snip>
> JE:-
> Before you _can_ measure any relative
> fitness (which is just a comparison)
> you must firstly measure the absolute
> fitnesses that are to be compared.
<snip>

That "measurment" is being 'taken' all along. It is done by means of natural
selection (of/amongst different genophenotypes) - or, still better beheld
and grasped in bulk (IMO), as 'taken' by lineage-relevant "evolutionary
(including lifetime) pressures".

So, it is measured _for us_ - with or without us - quite naturally, by
Nature itself. :-)

I, personally, am not all that interested or concerned about moot and/or
meagre mathematical models of biological evolution. Especially not since it
is possible (apparently mainly for me) to approximately understand
[understand in terms of generally and specifically describable/exemplifiable
categories of lifetime (environmental and intrinsic) factors/situations that
can be extrapolated back into our phylogeny] our overt and covert
(unconscious even to ourselves - and further explainable with reference to
Neuropsychobiology) motivations to do the things we do (such as e.g. being
AEVASIVEly enchanted by one's own SEPTIC philosophical thoughts; and being
self-rewarding by AEVASIVEly analysing and attacking a certain moot and
meagre neo-Darwinian mathematical model. ;-)

Cheers,

P

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