Re: Remine reproductive excess requirement
- From: "g" <gillawton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:51:29 -0400 (EDT)
"Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmenegay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "g" <gillawton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> > By the way, welcome back Joe. While you were gone, ReMine has mostly
>> > been silent. But several of us "evolutionists" discussed some of
>> > the issues involved in modeling "Haldane's Dilemma" on the thread
>> > entitled "Reproductive Excess Model". If you could take a look at
>> > what was discussed there with the goal of inserting some clarity,
>> > it would be appreciated.
>> >
>>
>> Would it annoy you guys if I ask each of you questions whereby I would
>> get
>> some clarity.
>>
>> I have made some very high scores on some IQ tests, but only where the
>> language and symbols used were clear, or were defined there, and were
>> unambiguous.
>>
>> I have read a lot of writings in which it has been obvious on the face of
>> it
>> the writer was confused, self-contradictory, unable to maintain a logical
>> sequence of thought... And, too, I have read some things I could not
>> process mentally without asking for clear definitions and precise
>> descriptions
>> of the operations involved.
>>
>> I am unable to assess, on the face of these sbe contributions, which
>> category
>> your comments fall into. I am not judging. I am just trying to say that
>> the
>> impression I get from reading your discussions is that some of you use
>> some
>> of the same words to mean different things, and cite some of the same
>> nomenclature for operations that mean one thing to one contributor and
>> something else to another.
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> True enough. Do you have a solution to this problem which would be
> enthusiastically accepted by everyone involved, if they just heard
> your proposal? Something new that has never been suggested before?
> (Rhetorical.)
>
>> Again, I am not judging. I am trying to follow what you are saying, and
>> cannot do so by being referred to my biography list which, thanks to
>> Gould
>> now has over 300 books. And I will not even THINK about reading them
>> all before asking questions.
>>
>> If more than one of you want to EACH give me his definition of what he
>> means by a word... (in his OWN words), and the definitions represent
>> different denotations, connotations, and subjective constructions of
>> meaning,
>> I will, nevertheless, begin in time to figure out who is saying what, and
>> who
>> is babbling.
>>
>> As I asked Joe, am I being fair in asking each of you for clarity? Or do
>> you
>> really WANT your meanings and arguments to be clear to me?
>>
>> If not, and you will just say that, I will appreciate your candor.
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> Well, in a sense ...
>
> Yes, it is unfair of you to ask for clarity. ;-)
Hey, I hear you loud and clear. If I am rocking an ego-game boat, and
that is unwelcome, let me not spoil the fun.
I cannot challenge anything I do not understand, and am involved in checking
out too many things. However, in a separate message, titled "Gil's red
shift
dilemma," I will give you an example of an issue I have with physics.
Once again, you have answered a question from me by asking something that
does not fit my disclosure. You ask if I have a 'better" explanation.
That does not fit with my disclosure that I don't know what you guys are
talking about and have asked if you can explain it in your own words, or
must
rely upon words someone else has written. If I have a better idea than an
idea
I have stated I do not even know what you guys are trying to say...
How does that follow?
Anyhow, see my message to follow tonight or tomorrow titled, "Gil's red
shift
dilemma."
That addresses something physicists say EVERY DAY, that I DO understand,
because the meaning of the statement is clear to me, as a non-physicist.
g
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