Re: Lizard engines and rat engines

Perplexed in Peoria <jimmenegay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote or quoted:
> "g" <gillawton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:dbvc4u$n0a$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> > ... I need to do a lot more reading and thinking about entropy. I just
> > sense that most of the people I come into contact with have a "gut feeling"
> > about entropy whereby something has to be put into order by an intelligent
> > orderer (divine, human... or whom have you)
>
> While there is some pretty fuzzy thinking about entropy in this group,
> no one here is quite THAT fuzzy. However, there are at least four
> different meanings of entropy that are used by people in this group,
> and that can be confusing.
> 1. Information theory entropy (as defined by Shannon).
> 2. Classical thermodynamic entropy (as defined by Clausius).
> 3. Statistical mechanics entropy (as defined by Boltzman).
> 4. Entropy as "disorder".
>
> The first three are quantitative. You can measure them. The second
> and third are nearly the same thing - the second "reduces to" the
> third. The fourth one is a bit fuzzier - there is no way to quantify
> it unless you can quantify "order" and everyone has their own opinion
> as to how that should be done.

According to the principles of Kolmogorov-Chaitin algorithmic entropy,
there's at least one way per language.
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