Querying consciousness (was Re: origin of thoughts)
- From: "Peter F" <notdisclosed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 21:18:18 -0400 (EDT)
"Divam" <dfordivam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> what is the origin of thoughts?
>
> scientists have been able to answer this simple question by giving
many
> hypothesis related to brain. but since they had proves against all of
> there hypothesis they tried to explain in terms of consciousness.
> but what actually is this consciousness or simply what is the answer
to
> this simple question
>
> i would specially like to ask people related to evolution and related
> fields
>
>
Consciousness should mean far more than just having some (late in our
evolution arrived) neurons that when they fire for long enough (and thus
also metabolize at a faster rate than when they are silent) form a
pattern of activity in brainspacetime that IS us telling our individual
selves [and possibly telling others as well ;-)] or just quietly
"reflecting on the effect of on", that we are "~ I, my thoughts,
and everyone and everything else, exist~".
That is, consciousness *should* also be known as what exists when we
feel and/or behave but don't necessarily think that we are;
E.g.: pained, pleased, humorous, happy, contented, angry, sad,
dissatisfied, curious, interested, keen, horny, hopeful, hopeless,
gloomy, love, delight, pride, shame, pleased, smug, stuck,
different shades/meanings of "blue, red, gray, black, yellow,
green (e.g. with envy, or by lack of experience), pink";
and so on and so forth.......
The fact that the neurons whose patterns of firing *is* the essence of
our different feelings normally are filtered, amplified, colored, or
contorted by more recently evolved "cognition conferring" neurons, does
not alter the fact that they are also partly explainable (in an
evolution theory-aligned way) as the dynamic outcome
(and direct, or side, effects) of a combination (throughout the
phylogeny of fauna) of, (ultimately generally put) the "evolutionary
pressure totality"; And, "penultimately generally (but still EPTly)
put", of :
1.Opportunity type evolutionary pressures (or ditto patterning
potentials), and
2. Adversity type selection (or pruning) pressures.
Other still earlier to have (phylogenetically and ontogenetically)
emerged neurons support no less intense or energetic but neither
emotionally nor mindfully aware states of being -- (patterns of
activity in brainspacetime) that we also *ought*
to be referring to by the concept of (a concept as irreparably
crude and general as) "consciousness".
That is, we ought to learn to discriminate (as appropriate) between
three basic levels (or "lines") of consciousness: cognitive awareness
(or mindfulness), and states or modes of emotionality (or feelings), and
states of visceromotor activity/reactivity.
It is (IMHO) far more important to be concerned and to learn about (and
become aware of) our (likewise evolved) capacity for "selective
unconsciousness" and sublimation as a consequence of having coped with
being in SHITS, than it is to give attentional support to the frivolous
'postverbial' philosophical preoccupation with how patterns of
"consciousnesses" (plural spelling) are, and has become, part of
What Is going on.
P
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