Re: Hamilton's rule



"Perplexed in Peoria" jimmenegay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:-

> > Jim McGinn wrote:-
> > I thought all
> > organisms recieved all their genes from their parents. Now your
> > saying that some of them come from, "the general population." What
> > do you mean by this, and how would you apply it, ...

> A nicely asked question. Ok. A fraction 'r' of the typical recipient's
> genes (on average) come from the common ancestors that the recipient
> shares with the donor AND they are identical (by descent) with the
> genes that the donor received from the same ancestors. I described this
> using the shorthand language that these genes 'come from' the donor.

JE:-
Incorrect. You are required to be _absolutely_ correct on this most critical
of matters within HR: A fraction 'r' of the typical recipient's genes (on
average) come from the common ancestors that the recipient shares with the
donor AS JUST A PROBABILITY where an average is just that, only an average.

All averages and probabilities are required to be VERY CAREFULLY interpreted
in evolutionary theory otherwise you may incorrectly use them to convert one
level of fitness into another or even worse, entirely fail to conserve a
critical level of fitness throughout within the mathematics.


> The remainder (fraction (1-r)) of the recipient's genes come from
> sources that don't provide genes to the donor.

JE:-
Who exactly are "they" and how do they "provide genes" to the recipients?

> These genes are expected
> (on average) to have the same allele frequencies as the general
> population.
> I used the shorthand language of saying that these genes come from
> the general population.

JE:-
Why are these genes "expected (on average) to have the same allele
frequencies as the general population?"


>snip<

Regards,

John Edser
Independent Researcher


edser@xxxxxxxxxx




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