Re: Why Humans are Conscious

Tim Tyler wrote:

claudiusdenk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Feb 6, 10:51 am, Guy A Hoelzer <hoel...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> claudiusd...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 2/4/07 12:19 PM:
>>> On Feb 3, 12:00 am, dkomo <dkomo...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Tim Tyler wrote:
>>>>> claudiusd...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>>>>>> Sure. To some degree. But human consciousness is orders of
magnitude
>>>>>> higher than that of any other species, most notably our closest
>>>>>> relatives, chimps.
>>>>> You have access to a consciousnessometer?
>>>>> Are you sure it's calibrated right?
>>>>> Humans seem to be extremely similar to chimps in this
>>>>> respect - as far as I can see.
>>>> Really? Can chimps work calculus problems too? And Sudoku puzzles?
>>>> [moderator's note: How would we know? -HAG]
>>> How is it not obvious?
>>
>> If you raised a human with the exact same environment
>> and set of experiences as a chimp, do you think we
>> could observe their ability to do calculus or Sudoku?
>
> Irrelevant.
>
>> I think the answer to the question above is not so obvious.
>
> The question that matters is what would happen if a chimps
> was raised in a human family.

Most likely the chimp would get screwed up - much like
any individual ripped from its natural parents and
adopted by members of a different species would be.

Note that ability at calculus and Sudoku doesn't seem to
have much to do with what it says on:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=consciousness
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Consciousness = mind = what the brain does when it is running.

Ability at calculus and Sudoku puzzles is an observable. It's what the
human brain does, or can do. Chimps can't, so they have less
consciousness.


--dkomo@xxxxxxxx


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