Re: Evolutionist withholds evidence on Haldane's Dilemma

In article <f0o3uf$2eks$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmenegay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Vend" <vend82@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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What is this Haldane's Dilemma? The Wikipedia article is confusing and
unclear.

Probably because it has been a battleground of edits and counter-edits. I
would
recommend that you look at Robert Williams's web site
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/haldane.html
with the understanding that it is biased in one direction, and then look at
Remine's web site,
http://www1.minn.net/~science/Haldane.htm
with the understanding that it is biased in the opposite direction. You won't
get a neutral POV in either place, but you may get more clarity.

And then, if you are ambitious, go to the primary literature.

As to the name "Haldane's Dilemma", it was coined by van Valen who apparently
thought that the 'dilemma' was something facing a species - if it 'tries' to
evolve too fast, it goes extinct, but if it evolves too slow, it probably faces
eventual extinction as well.

ReMine, however, interprets it as a dilemma facing evolutionary biologists - if
they claim that evolution proceeded as fast as they might like to think it did,
then they must admit that the evolution occurred by a process other than
natural
selection. Or so ReMine claims.

In the face of new dogs evolving out of wolves (arguably different species,
down to reproductive barrier for some varieries) practically in no time,
the whole argument seems quite pointless.

DK

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