Re: Evolution is NOT random

In article <g1i24v$cvq$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, dkomo <dkomo871@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
DK wrote:
In article <g170bf$kt8$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, r norman
<r_s_norman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


We
humans are not capable of "seeing" a single photon


We are! (Albeit only when well dark-adapted and even
then at a low rate compared to, say, turtles).


No, I can't imagine any situation whereby the universe is
deterministic or completely repeatable on replay, even
replicating the original conditions.


Of course universe is not completely deterministic and
not repeatable on reply - but that in no way means quantum
effects in biology a role of any significance. The source
of non-determinism is chaotic effects on essentially every
level. As in this simple example:

http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/GeneralInterest/Harrison/Flash/Chaos/Bunimovich
/Bunimovich.html

DK


How is this simulation non-deterministic? It's produced by a computer
running an algorithm.

It is deterministic. But it shows the source of non-determinism
in nature - infinitely small changes end up producing global
effects.

Chaos is NOT a source of randomness in nature.

It is. Change the initial positions 0.5% from what's shown
and you get completley different outcome.

DK

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