Re: OT: Historical Amnesia

From: Maleki (maleki_m__at_hotmail.com)
Date: 10/24/04 

Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:48:09 -0500

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:35:16 GMT, hanson wrote:

> Have you checked the English translation now for the
> French "Mal" and the German "Ekel". It will enighten you!

Did _you_ look into the roots of your name, "hanson"? Did
you find how it boils down to a miserable attempt to
pronounce the Arabic "Hassan" :-) Life doesn't have to be as
boring and limited as an American's. Dump that TV, your
window to the dead-end dark alley it opens, and go see Iran.
Between me and you I am the one who did "go". I left my
country, my family, everything, even my savings, and _went_.
I had $400 in my pocket. Have you ever done that hanson?

See a place I described once elsewhere, its name is "gure
dokhtar". Here is how I described it:

    Gure Dokhtar

    The tomb of Cyrus the Great in Iran has a very neat
    and peculiar design. A lot of sense has gone into
    its shape, for instance note how the height of the
    stone stairs leading to the entrance to it vary,
    and on what basis :) There's a lot more to say
    about the tomb itself and how it's built. But was
    this neat structure unique only to the tomb of
    Cyrus or was it a general design in use during
    those days, at least for tombs of noteworthies in
    Iran?

    I have one clue, just one, that this design was
    perhaps not unique to Cyrus' tomb. At about 100
    kilometers southwest of Kazerun, in a deserted and
    godforsaken stretch of land residing inside the
    southern extensions of Zagros mountains lies a tomb
    made of white stones and with much similarity in
    shape to the tomb of Cyrus the Great. It is half as
    large in size though. The tomb and indeed that
    whole area is so difficult to "bump into" and so
    remote that it can only be reached by complicated
    and rarely used mountain tracks well inside the
    mighty Zagros. As a matter of fact the tomb was
    "discovered" only in the year 1950!

    The few locals who were aware of its existence
    called it "gure dokhtar" (tomb of the daughter).
    The design is certainly Achaemenian and has nothing
    to do with many Sasanid structures and
    archeological remnants that exists throughout
    southwest Iran (and everywhere else indeed, even
    around Tehran). Gure Dokhtar is small enough that
    you almost cannot detect and distinguish it from
    its surroundings even if you're standing in the
    same flat land where it resides. And like that of
    Cyrus, it has no inscriptions on it.

    Gure Dokhtar stands about 6 meters high (that of
    Cyrus is about 12 meters high) and its base is a
    rectangle of about 5 by 6 meters. The roof is of
    course gable-shaped like the one for Cyrus. On its
    north wall is the small low entrance to the
    chamber, measuring only 67 centimeters high by 89
    centimeters wide. The chamber itself is about 2
    meters high, 2.2 meters long, 1.6 meters wide. The
    walls also have two small square "window"-like
    recesses into the stone that adorn the structure
    one above the entrance and the other at same level
    on the opposite wall, the one at the front probably
    once contained a wooden or iron block describing
    the identity of the dignitary the tomb belonged.

    For Gure Dokhtar there are only three stone stairs
    (the one for Cyrus has six), each about 35
    centimeters in height. The overall design and the
    precision and skill with which Gure dokhtar is
    built suggests a date even earlier than that of the
    tomb of Cyrus. The estimate, 40 years back, for its
    date of creation was made to have been within the
    first quarter of the sixth century BC.

    My questions are:
    
    - Although it is very VERY unlikely, have you
    visited this place? :)
    
    - Are you aware of the existence of any other
    structure in Iran that resembles that of the tomb
    of Cyrus the Great?
    
    - Has this site, Gure Dokhtar, been studied by
    Iranian archeological authorities? If so, could you
    provide the references to their reports?
    
    - My information on this site is brief and about 40
    years old (given by David Stronach). If you have
    more recent information, is this structure still
    standing and intact and complete as it was 40 years
    back when it was still unknown to the
    archeologists?

  

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     goft khuneye ghAzi arusiyeh, goft be to cheh! goft
     mano ham da'vat kardan, goft be man cheh!

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