Re: fire from water.

From: Chuck Szmanda (cszmanda_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 12/31/04


Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:58:56 GMT

Glycerin with an oxidizer such as KMnO4 will burst into flame. No water is
needed. That wasn't the question.

However, I do second the admonition to be very careful. If you try these
mixtures, use small quantities.

Chuck Szmanda

"Repeating Rifle" <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:BDF9F2EC.2E4EC%salmonegg@sbcglobal.net...
> in article 1104432844.990810@game.trilobyte.net, Neil Lawrence at
> NeilDogL@trilobyte.net wrote on 12/30/04 10:54 AM:
>
>> At a recent outing with a youth group (I am an adult advisor) one of
>> the other advisors started a fire by pouring water on the camp fire. I
>> know he had done something previously to prepare the effect, however he
>> won't share his secret. I thought of the obvious like K metal however I
>> can't see that being able to sit for any length of time in a stable
>> condition waiting to be ignited. I also thought of a pool chlorinator
>> but wasn't able to generate that much heat in my own tests.
>>
>> Has anyone here done this before and if so what was the material used?
>>
>>
>> --------
>>
>> Neil Lawrence
>>
>> Take out the dog before replying.
>
> When I was a kid, a counselor in camp did something like that. IIRC over
> the
> decades, he used concentrated sulfuric acid and potassium chlorate. I
> think
> potassium permanganate would work well too. I understand that glycerine
> and
> potassium permanganate might do the job as well.
>
> Do not rely upon mymemory. Check it out. Be carfeful.
>
> Bill
>



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