Re: Homeopathics was Re: Kalium dichromicum

From: Marvin (physchem_at_cloud9.net)
Date: 02/07/05 

Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:08:52 -0500

Wilco Oelen wrote:
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
>>>Indeed it is quite surprising to see what kinds of chemicals are
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> used
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>>>in medicine, especially in homeopathic preparations. However, the
>>>concentrations frequently are so low that from a mathematical point
>
> of
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>>>view, no atoms of the compound can be present.
>>
>>Correct, the previous presence of the compound causes some structure
>>change in the water somehow when prepared properly.
>>
>>
>>>It is believed that the
>>>FORMER presence of a certain compound still leaves some energy/aura
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> in
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>>>the water, such that it has effect. I do not believe this
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> personally,
>
>>>but many people believe it helps.
>>
>>It should not be a matter of belief. Prepare some homeopathic
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> solutions
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>>yourself from distilled water, and use a scanning photospectrometer
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> to
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>>view the infrared and uv absorption spectrum. You will find that it
>
> is
>
>>different than the original distilled water and repeatable. I have
>
> also
>
>>done it with water exposed to magnets and even weird coils that were
>>claimed to energize the water. I had intended to disprove them, but
>>ended up proving that they do do something to the water. Everything
>
> left
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>>an impression that was easily verified by this instrument. What
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> exactly
>
>>the changes are is up for grabs, but I have done this and found that
>>something changes. Also there are reports that freezing and
>
> examining
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>>the crystals under a microscope can also indicate that the structure
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> of
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>>the water is different, but I have never done that.
>>
>>Marshall
>>
>
> Is there any more info on this change of the structure of water? I have
> heard/read similar claims from other people, but I personally am not in
> the position to prove or disprove such claims. I'm not a professional
> in the field with access to laboratory equipment. If there indeed is a
> repeatable effect, then there should be references to this.
>
> I think that the issue is worth being investigated by serious research
> groups, but unfortunately this seems not to happen.
>
> Wilco
>
Perhaps 15 years ago, the journal Nature published a paper on the effect of a homeopathic medicine on blood cells. When the
accuracy of the research was questioned, Nature sent a crack team of scientists to visit the lab. What they found was a poor
experimental design in which the people making the measurements knew which samples were controls and which were treated, and
they decieved themselves to get the results that were wanted. That hasn't stopped believers in homeopathy from referring to
the original publication, without mention of the later findings on the methods.

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