Re: EPD TiO2 coatings



zygimantas wrote:
>
> I have stainless steel 304 with polished surface. I treated it with
> degreasing solution. before EPD. Etching can be proceeded only with
> "qua regia" or warm sulfuric acid. 304 is nitric acid resistant. In
> my case better results were obtained with polished not etched surface.
> The idea of this work is to develop simple and cheap as possible method
> for TiO2 coatings on commercial available substrate. Without any
> additional intermediate layers (for example tin oxide).

"The idea of this work is to develop simple and cheap as possible
method"

Simple, Cheap, Effective: Pick any two. If it doesn't work it makes
no difference how simple and cheap it is to manufacture.

Building some surface oxide with nitric acid passivation while
simultaneously chewing off all surface contamination sounds like a
good experiment to enhance bonding. Passivate, treat with a smidgeon
of tetrabutyltitanate to bond a tie layer, then coat. Sounds like a
winner. Try anodic passivation, too.

When you have something that works you then go back to minimize costs
with process changes. That is making stuff and that is what a
scientist does. When you don't know what works and you look for a
maximum on the response surface - that may or may not be there to be
found - all you create is progress reports. That is making things and
that is what an engineer does.

First stuff, then things. No stuff, no things.

When Uncle Al was in the human implantables game one of his employers
dumped serious money on an academic engineering group that cast nearly
a thousand polymerization runs - in water - looking for a strong, high
refractive index hydrogel. You would be suitably impressed by acres
of response surfaces and their polynomial fits that came forth. It
was an incredible sheaf of work. All of it was crap.

Severe strength and refractive index boosters contain sterically
hindered, highly polarizable backbone moieties like N-vinylcarbazole.
All of the really good ones are water-insoluble. Pookie pookie.
Hydrophobicity is a *good* thing to strengthen hydrogels! The
hydrophile sucks in water trying to dissolve. The hydrophobe seeks
itself and associatively vulcanizes the rubber. About 0.1%
crosslinking holds it all together over time.

If you want a strong hydrogel you cast it as the xerogel with
crosslinking. When it hydrates eveything pulls taut isotropically.
Hell, you can only machine the xerogel anyway. If you dehydrate a
hydrogel to machine it you have no idea how it will reswell.
Freeze-drying destroys the polymer when the water crystallizes. We
could put in additives that make water freeze glassy then wash them
out afterwards... and waste more money to buy more progress reports.

First call in scientists to create something that works - the stuff.
Then call in engineers to transform the stuff into a product - the
thing. If you have really good stuff even an engineer cannot totally
ruin it - that requires a production supervisor.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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