Re: Making petrol from the air
- From: "Craig" <cagerken@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 12 Nov 2006 09:01:33 -0800
Tom Anderson wrote:
Could we use electrical energy to convert air into petrol (aka gasoline)?
What i'm after is a process which allows me to build a plant where CO2,
water and electricity go in one end, and alkanes and oxygen come out the
other. It can be done with biotechnology, but not at a particularly great
rate, i think. Is there a feasible chemical solution here?
In principle, sure. Convert CO2 and water to hydrocarbons and oxygen,
just like the plants do it.
The big hurdle is thermodynamics. You'd need to put in some
substantial energy to make this go. Essentially, you'd be storing
energy in a chemical form. Plants do this by tapping the energy in
sunlight, which you have observed only comes so fast, although it is
free. If you use electricity, you will invariably contend with
imperfect efficiencies - 100 Joules of energy in won't ever, in
practice, give you 100 Joules of energy stored. I hope your
electricity is awfully cheap...
The other obvious problem is "how." The best that I know of is
Fischer-Tropsch, for converting CO and hydrogen to hydrocarbons. If we
could do this more cheaply than pumping oil out of the ground, we
already would be. The Fischer-Tropsch synthesis has only been used in
very special circumstances around the world. In the 1940's, it was
used by Nazi Germany as the only alternative to a wartime blockade.
South Africa under apartheid developed the technology further for
similar reasons (restricted trade). Today, it is used in Southeast
Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia) as a way to convert plentiful natural gas
reserves into more easily transportable liquid fuels. In all of these
cases, Fischer-Tropsch was viable only because of unique local
conditions. In short, the best available technology for synthesizing
hydrocarbon fuels is not yet better than other ways of getting them.
- Craig
.
- Follow-Ups:
- Re: Making petrol from the air
- From: lucasea
- Re: Making petrol from the air
- References:
- Making petrol from the air
- From: Tom Anderson
- Making petrol from the air
- Prev by Date: Re: When a sterile environment is a must! http://www.teflex.org
- Next by Date: Converting a measurement to STP
- Previous by thread: Re: Making petrol from the air
- Next by thread: Re: Making petrol from the air
- Index(es):
Relevant Pages
|