Re: diesel fuel vs. heating oil

On Apr 14, 8:56 am, "C.D. Koger" <c...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Martin Brown" <|||newspam...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On Apr 11, 7:37 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"C.D. Koger" wrote:

My new common rail turbo diesel got its first tankful of heating oil
today.
Started like normal, drove like normal. Here in Europe, heating fuel
is
coloured red to facilitate customs inspection because it is more than

Actually my heating oil 28s kerosene is not coloured red. It has clear
marker chemistry
Agricultural fuel in the UK is red diesel..

Diesel may contain microbiocides, have tight specs for water content,
and otherwise respect fuel injectors and cylinder valves. Furnace
fuel may not perform well in the long run. Physical reality aside...
the State will whack your pee-pee for cheating it out of its mandated
revenues.

And probably confiscate your vehicle too.

The IRA (and some other groups) became experts at removing the dye and
chemical markers leaving tankers full of toxic waste in laybys in the
UK and parts of mainland Europe where diesel is popular. Incorrectly
processed diesel with traces of acid residue tends to dissolve storage
tanks and engine blocks. Caveat emptor!

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp....
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&columns=1&id=HMCE_PROD1_026304#P52_7979

Since the phrase 'red diesel' is frequently used instead of heating oil I
assume they are the same mixtures of hydrocarbons, with the dye and maybe an
invisible marker (why for Pete's sake?) added to make the distinction. If I

They want to make sure you pay the taxes. Biodiesel is another option.

The UK recently had a hugely entertaining scare when the correct anti-
foaming diesel fuel additives were put into a large batch of petrol
(gas) destined for supermarket own brand retail outlets. The trace
silicone compounds plated out on the oxygen sensor and wrecked the
engine management rendering serious numbers of cars helpless. The
punters were ripped off huge bills for replacement of the sensors by
garages (and they only noticed something was amiss when the entire UK
suddenly ran out of oxygen sensors).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport/Story/0,,2027651,00.html

Fun what the wrong additive and trace chemistry can do to fancy modern
cars with sophisticated engine managment and exhaust emission control
systems. The old ones once properly warmed up would run on just about
anything.

News media are seldom a reliable source for scientific information. I see no
harm in a silicone plated oxygen sensor: the engine management software
substitutes any sensor value that is out of range with a fixed value from a
table and activates the mmu warning light. You won't get optimal mileage and
the engine doesn't pass an emission test, but there's no harm done. The

That wasn't what happened in practice. Engines misfired horribly and
cars sputtered to a standstill around 10-20 miles from being filled up
at the offending petrol stations. I was visiting the SE at the time,
but my car is a diesel.

sensor should be replaced at regular intervals anyhow, it leads a miserable
life in the worst spot of an exhaust system.

The damage was sufficiently bad and widespread that Tescoes had to
take out full page ads in all the national newspapers offering to pay
for repairs to any car damaged by their dodgy fuel (production of a
receipt required). And after the mess was cleared up they had to bribe
people back to their forecourts with 3p/litre off fuel discount
vouchers.

Regards,
Martin Brown

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