Re: death of the mind.
From: Sergio Navega (snavega_at_intelliwise.com)
Date: 07/17/04
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:10:28 -0300
"Glen M. Sizemore" <gmsizemore2@yahoo.com> escreveu na mensagem
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> SN: When one thinks to lift one's arm to grab a CD, one has the option of
> "just thinking it", without actually doing it. Several studies verified
that
> even in this consciously inhibited situation one activates most of the
motor
> areas involved in the grasping of the object.
>
> GS: One would think that it would probably be this way. After all,
thinking
> is behavior.
>
I suppose you're complaining about my use of the word "thinking",
which may be, to a radical behaviorist, an unforgivable sin.
Let's then change that to "patterns of activations" as determined
by fMRI, for instance. Would it make any difference?
Sergio Navega.
>
>
> "Sergio Navega" <snavega@intelliwise.com> wrote in message
> news:40f81fe3$1_7@news.athenanews.com...
> > From: "Allan C Cybulskie" <allan.c.cybulskie@yahoo.ca>
> > >
> > > It is NOT an a priori assumption, but is instead an empirical
> observation.
> > > It appears to us that when we deliberate over a decision, and come to
a
> > > conclusion as to what action to take, that the action taken is the one
> > > consistent with the decision and is determined by the decision we
made.
> > > This holds particularly true for "delayed decisions", where I decide
> what
> > to
> > > do in advance and then do it. It seems obvious to us that when I
think
> > "I'm
> > > going to lift my arm and grab the CD" that it is that decision that
> causes
> > > the action of my lifting my arm and grabbing the CD.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not familiar with Staddon's work, but I take that this
> > interpretation requires further clarification. The news is that
> > our conventional "intuitive" approach of saying that decision
> > precedes action is really inaccurate. But it seems to me to be
> > equally wrong to propose that action precedes decision. What is
> > consensus today is that action/decision pairs are integrated
> > into the same unit (in other words, they are activated at the
> > same time). Besides, there are several processes that influence
> > this mechanism, one of them being inhibition. When one thinks
> > to lift one's arm to grab a CD, one has the option of
> > "just thinking it", without actually doing it. Several studies
> > verified that even in this consciously inhibited situation one
> > activates most of the motor areas involved in the grasping of
> > the object.
> >
> > Sergio Navega.
> >
> >
>
>
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