Re: Aaron Sloman's "The Irrelevance of Turing Machines to AI" article

From: David Longley (David_at_longley.demon.co.uk)
Date: 08/04/04


Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:00:06 +0100

In article <ceqs6i$vct$1@usenet.cso.niu.edu>, Neil W Rickert
<rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu> writes
>Wolf Kirchmeir <wwolfkir@sympatico.ca> writes:
>
>>Again, granted that "categorisation" takes place. But what, exactly, is
>>it?
>
>That would actually be a good topic, if only people could discuss
>it intelligently.
>
>> I submit it's behaviour.
>
>It seems that to a behaviorist, everything is behavior. And that
>makes your statement vacuous.
>
>For me, categorization has to do with inputs, while behavior has to
>do with outputs.
>
>>But mostly, categorisation is language use.
>
>I guess that is what you would conclude if you insist on construing
>everything as behavior.
>
>>** When I was first teaching, a question that vexed me from the
>>beginning was, How do I know that a student has understood a tex? The
>>answer is, of course, that the only evidnce we have is his or her
>>language about the text.
>
>Maybe we mathematicians have it easier. To a mathematician, a
>student has understood the text if he is capable of solving problems,
>including original problems that are significantly different from any
>in the text. We judge understanding on the basis of behavior, but
>this is not restricted to behavior that is in the form of "language
>about the text".
>
>I guess that makes me a behaviorist of sorts. But I am not a
>radically stupid behaviorist. As far as I can tell, the "operant
>conditioning" account cannot adequately explain the acquired ability
>to solve original problems.
>
>

You're right, you don't know enough to know whether you're a "radically
stupid behaviorist".

-- 
David Longley


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